http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 39291.html
For the record, they were able to safely apprehend the guy who ate someone's face
Zevran wrote:Magic can kill. Knives can kill. Even small children launched at great speeds can kill.
“I never would have called the cops if I’d known this was going to happen”
julyjack73 wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/florida-police-kill-man-while-he-was-eating-dinner-in-his-backyard-a7239291.html
For the record, they were able to safely apprehend the guy who ate someone's face
“I never would have called the cops if I’d known this was going to happen,”
“They just came in and started shooting right away.”
Officers ordered Frazier to get on the ground, to which he responded, “Leave me alone,” according to his nephew Quartaze Woodard. When order to the ground once more, Frazier gave them the same response. Police then opened fire, according to Mr Woodard.
Ms Frazier told dispatchers that her brother had been holding a knife – a small pocket knife she said he always carried – but it remains unclear whether or not Frazier was holding the knife when police were on the scene.
julyjack73 wrote:For the record, they were able to safely apprehend the guy who ate someone's face
However, the explanation for the Burger King detail in the story involving Dylann Roof could stem from laws pertaining to the rights of a prisoner in custody. A post-arrest rights violation checklist published on FindLaw details circumstances under which an individual could later claim their rights were violated, one of which is a withholding of food:
A criminal suspect is entitled to humane treatment, no matter how heinous the alleged crime. If you were not treated humanely, for instance if you were deprived of food and water or if you were beaten either during police questioning or while in a holding cell, your rights may have been violated.
The web site of a criminal lawyer practicing in South Carolina addressed conditions under which a confession or other information gathered during the questioning of a suspect could later be deemed inadmissible due to possible coercion, which also included a scenario in which food was denied
Dylann Roof was apprehended between 10 and 11 AM on 18 June 2015, and the circumstances under which he was provided with food from Burger King prior to his arraignment were not entirely clear. At the time of Roof's arrest, the Charleston shooting was a worldwide headline and the case had already escalated to the level of a major news story.
One could speculate that Roof's status (pending interrogation by federal agents) put him outside the facility's standard process for providing food to inmates or suspects, or that Roof was indeed handled in a manner atypical from that of most arrestees, or that local police employed an abundance of caution with a very high-profile suspect to avoid his later making claims of mistreatment or denial of rights.
Regardless of all the straightforward reasons why police would provide food to a suspect in their custody, the plain explanation is that Roof hadn't eaten in days, and the Shelby PD didn't have the facilities to house him and provide him with meals while waiting for federal and Charleston authorities to arrive, so they had to dispatch someone to a nearby business to pick up some food for him
D-LOGAN wrote:So they do kinda have to give the kid something to eat if he's hungry ... or you know, might end up being problems with the convictions and whatnot.
Grimstone wrote:I don't think that they shouldn't have fed him, that'd just be silly.. but a burger from a fast food joint sounds like better and more expensive treatment than necessary.
D-LOGAN wrote:Are we really saying if it was Malvo they wouldn't have done the same thing because Malvo's black?
Are American Burger King burgers such elixirs of expensive deliciousness that only white mass killers are allowed have them, whereas the black ones in the same situation have to ... what .... get someone to cook them up a meal in the kitchen? Is that worse?
Edit: I don't think Malvo was arrested during/at the scene of a crime which is a key detail in these comparisons(Neither was the picture of Dylan in the vest now that I think about it).
Grimstone wrote:D-LOGAN wrote:Are we really saying if it was Malvo they wouldn't have done the same thing because Malvo's black?
Malvo? I don't know, but I do believe there exists a real/significant chance of receiving worse treatment because of skin color.
I'm just sayin'.. why go out and buy him a burger which is much more expensive and delicious than bread/water they probably had on hand.
D-LOGAN wrote:Irregardless
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