SandTea wrote:Crimson847 wrote:Is that what you mean to suggest?
Pretty much. Counter intuitive motivations are quite prevalent among every demographic. If someone genuinely cared they would try to change something, anything, shit; everything.
Would they?
You haven't tried restricting violent media, allowing teachers to go armed, posting more armed guards in schools, or tightening access control, to name a few responses proposed by folks on the right. I'm guessing there are solutions proposed by people to your left that you reject as well, like banning all firearms for everyone except police and military. According to this theory, if you really cared about mass shootings you'd be fighting for all of these changes as well, in the interest of trying
anything to solve the problem. But you're not fighting for them. Why not?
Presumably, because you don't agree that these are good ideas. Rather, you'd probably argue that at least some of these proposals are pointless wastes of time at best or destructive mistakes at worst. And that's an entirely valid reason to not support something: a proposal that's merely ineffective would waste time that could be better directed elsewhere, and a proposal that causes more problems than it solves would make things worse and represent a problem in its own right.
Are other people with different beliefs about the gun issue not allowed to reject gun control efforts for the same reasons?
I often forget about where I am posting and the people I am trying to converse with. Oops, go ahead and ignore this. I can sometimes be "that guy". Ya know, the one who.... oh, I'm doing it again.
I do not think I will explain any further why shitty things are shitty.
The NRA does lots of shitty things, mate. Republicans too. They're presently led by Oliver North and Donald Trump, for crying out loud; both organizations have spent the last 2 years shitting a hole straight through the bed. I just want some explanation as to why disagreeing that the gun control measures on the table will reduce mass shootings makes someone not just shitty, but cartoon-villain gather-your-torches-and-pitchforks shitty. I mean, some of the people I know fall into this category, so if you're right about this I need to rescue their children from those inhuman monsters who think child murder is no big deal. But this time I want to be dead sure before I go kidnapping other people's children for their own good.
"If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them; but the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn