Windy wrote:How dare this Nazi president recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, he should kick all the Jews out of their homes and give it to the Palestinians to show how much of a not-nazi he is
Windy wrote:How dare this Nazi president recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, he should kick all the Jews out of their homes and give it to the Palestinians to show how much of a not-nazi he is
Cobra-D wrote:About 59 Palestinians(so far) have died today during a protest against the embassy by Israeli forces.
Terry Pratchett wrote:The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
aviel wrote:The issue is compounded by the fact that the new embassy in Jerusalem opened today. I have no idea why we decided to open the embassy on Nakba day. That seems like an incredibly obvious mistake. It inflames the riots, and makes the optics worse for both Israel and the US by giving Hamas a specific (and internationally unpopular) action they can point to as an excuse for the violence.
Terry Pratchett wrote:The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
Crimson847 wrote:Also, it's arguable that neither Trump's America nor Netanyahu's Israel has much international credibility left to lose at this point, so they may think scraping the bottom of that barrel won't really change much.
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Windy wrote:Crimson847 wrote:Also, it's arguable that neither Trump's America nor Netanyahu's Israel has much international credibility left to lose at this point, so they may think scraping the bottom of that barrel won't really change much.
Oh no how will we ever live with knowing that countries that keep leeching off of us and repeatedly relying on us to deal with problems on their own continent because for some reason they get buttfucked by fascism or communism or theocracy every few decades probably because for some reason they really trust their government so it never occurs to them that giving their government huge amounts of power is a bad idea whereas most of our country's founding laws were based on the principle that the government is corrupt and we need to limit its powers even though europe has been fucked harder by unchecked government power so you'd think they would learn while smugly insulting us and telling us how the strongest and most successful country in the world despite being one of the youngest should be run after royally fucking up their continent three times in the last century and begging us to save them because they have the memory span of a goldfish and take everything they have for granted and think this prosperity will last forever even though it's been less than half a century since we almost all nuked each other and are currently gunning for a fourth time and probably won't even exist within a century don't like us?
Aquila89 wrote:I think we should try to stay on topic. Whether the US needs international alliances is a whole new subject.
Windy wrote:Spoiler: show
Piter Lauchy wrote:I don't think it's wise to look at the past, recent as it may be.* Yes, there is a lot of trust in the government (in Germany, at least).
I don't think it's wise to look at the past, recent as it may be.* Yes, there is a lot of trust in the government (in Germany, at least). No one admits to being a fan of Merkel, but her party keeps being reelected. They must do something right. My guess is that it's stability. It doesn't feel like we're making a lot of progress, but that's the thing. Too much progress scares people. Not enough progress scares other people.
In conclusion, I see where you're coming from. I really do. But please understand that in the present Trump is nothing more than a joke over here. I love the USA and I yearn for the day when I'll be finally able to visit your country. It is full of interesting, smart and all around excellent people. Trump is not one of them.
Sandtea wrote:I'm pretty sure protests would still happen even if the embassy wasn't moved. Hammas would have just used the same reason they've been using since forever. I don't have a dog in this fight other than it being weird to me that, over a few years it became much more popular to hate on Israel.
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