Ladki96 wrote:Fucking hypocrites. Right, live off the grid, and leech from it.
Kick out the "dangerous" "foes," who may be more than just a vile junkie looking for their next fix? Call yourself an anarchist? Hippy?
Stick your fingers in your ear till the govt and cops leave you alone, but go crying to them when crimes happens. Man, either grow up and join the boring conformists or have some self respect and cut yourself off entirely.
DamianaRaven wrote:Well-said! I don't feel a lot of enthusiastic support for hipsters who think that paying rent doesn't apply to them because they're "creative and resourceful." There's a reason squatting is illegal - it's not just "corporate greed, man."
SandTea wrote:Listen, I get it. Kids are awful and feel entitled and hipsters and liberal arts majors and they won't get off my lawn.
DamianaRaven wrote: If you want to change the laws regarding ownership of abandoned property, that's a fine idea to be considered.
Until then, the same laws that prohibit squatting are the ones that make it illegal for me to come and take your car whenever you're not driving it.
I don't think the world will be a better place if those laws are disregarded.
SandTea wrote:There are just a bunch of places around me that are going to waste for years and I personally would much rather have a semi organized group of artists inhabit than no one or be used as a crack house.
SandTea wrote:IDK, might be fun to try lol. We do seem to be in a sharing mood these days with all those ubers and airbnbs and whatnot. Yeah, I understand those are voluntary but I'm the sorta guy whose for mandatory organ donation so sue me. There are just a bunch of places around me that are going to waste for years and I personally would much rather have a semi organized group of artists inhabit than no one or be used as a crack house.
DamianaRaven wrote:So, you're actually not OK with a group of poor people (who happen to share a common interest) ganging up on a property and appropriating it for their own use... or is it only OK for certain kinds of people to take what isn't theirs?
Andropov4 wrote:My problem with these squatters is this: they're coming into a place, doing their stuff, and expecting the rightful owners to take a form of payment that it is highly unlikely they ever would have agreed to. It's presumptuous ("I know how to use your things better than you do"), rude, and ought to be frowned upon.
The world is super complicated and there's good and bad on each side of the coin. Yes, squatters are stealing. Stealing is bad. No hope buildings are bad.
Crackheads are bad.
Perhaps I'm just being optimistic in this bleak world but at least the squatters brought up in the article are making the world a better place unarguably.
Like I said, I don't remember which country except 'not mine'
but I'd still love it if some snobs took over the abandoned drive in (10 years now) instead of the condom pile it has become (yes, raven some people are better neighbors than others) even if that means a bunch of pretentious soon to be mainstream kids trying to find their path in life move in.
SandTea wrote:Hypocrites? Probably, everyone is a fucking hypocrite and artists aren't exempt from that.
Ladki96 wrote:Maybe I come across as heartless :( but property laws are a thing, and I value freedom over equality. People can do whatever they want with their private property, and it's not my (nor the squatters') business if they have disused land or buildings lying by.
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