aviel wrote:Even if we were to accept moderator personal calls as an acceptable standard, which the vagueness principle prohibits us from doing, the problem is that the moderators can't agree on acceptable personal calls by a wide margin. So we need something more specific.
Tess said that sports should go in gendisc. Entertainment can go in the appropriate media forum, and celebrity news can also go in gendisc.
ShuaiGuy wrote:What if for noteworthy we just checked Google Results or something.
Ceiling_Squid wrote:I get vagueness principle, but I really have no problem trusting mod discretion specifically in regards to reputable sourcing. Aside from a few particular blacklisted sources, I don't think there's a need to be that rigorous.
Terry Pratchett wrote:The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
aviel wrote:ShuaiGuy wrote:What if for noteworthy we just checked Google Results or something.
How does this Google test work?Ceiling_Squid wrote:I get vagueness principle, but I really have no problem trusting mod discretion specifically in regards to reputable sourcing. Aside from a few particular blacklisted sources, I don't think there's a need to be that rigorous.
Would TMZ be considered sufficiently reputable? What about another site focusing exclusively on entertainment news? I don't know if moderators are in agreement about this.
Terry Pratchett wrote:The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
Kate wrote:My feelings on this forum have always been, if you can roll out of bed in the morning, throw on your bathrobe, grab a cup of coffee and sleepily shuffle to the door, pick up a newspaper, plop it on the table, and open it up to your news section of choice and find this story there and you wish to have a quality discussion about it, this is where it belongs. Is it the Sports section? Is it celebrity news? Is it politics? Business? I will make the exception for the Sunday funnies and say that probably doesn't belong here, but why should someone's love of Israeli politics outweigh someone else's love of the Redskins or golf or Chris Pratt's fancy new hairdo, if it is news?
Does that mean we have no standards here? I don't think so.
Terry Pratchett wrote:The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
Kate wrote:I never said I agreed with Tess on that.
we do have standards and they are generally agreed upon.
Terry Pratchett wrote:The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
ghijkmnop wrote:I have always worked under the adage "Your house; your rules." I feel that this is a valid discussion, but I honestly feel that it needs to be taking place among the moderators and operators of the forum, without input from those of us who would possibly take things personally when threads we posted are singled out as inappropriate.
That being said, I was under the impression that CAaSS was the sole subforum where members were allowed to bitch about their world
Terry Pratchett wrote:The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
Kate wrote:I'm aware that her word is binding over mine. I'm also aware that she is a reasonable human being who listens to other people and who doesn't just ignore them, decide she wants to do something, and never changes her mind again even if other people have valid arguments ;) I credit Tess with having a high-quality brain and sound judgment. This doesn't mean I think she'll necessarily agree with me on this, but it does mean that I can reasonably expect to have a conversation with her and not have her stick her fingers in her ears and go "LA LA LA LA I ALREADY SAID IT IN IRC, BINDING FOREVER! Ask avi if you don't believe me."
Of all of the threads that have been reported, or not reported, and not moved, or moved, they almost universally involved a majority decision. Rarely has a topic been moved without a few other moderators agreeing that it is in an inappropriate place.
I appreciate that it is frustrating how vague things seem
The standards you are suggesting are too strict, first of all.
Secondly, dictating what is and what is not newsworthy when professional publications say otherwise is not something I am interested in and I highly doubt I am alone. Third, this is the place to have a more serious discussion of current events in general; deciding that only a select few genres are worthy of serious discussion is restrictive to anyone who has interests that lie outside of yours.
Fourth, it would be highly inconvenient to need to check multiple forums to find discussions on all current news items that one might want to discuss.
I appreciate that it is frustrating how vague things seem
Terry Pratchett wrote:The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
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