5 Examples of Racism In Porn

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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Tesseracts » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:23 am

ghijkmnop wrote:Honestly, I have to wonder why we are even bothering to discuss this. IMO, this falls in the category of micromanagement. There are very big pictures we need to concern ourselves with before addressing racism in porn.

One of the biggest and most persistent questions concerning racism is: just how bad is it? Few will admit to being racist, since it's socially unacceptable. Porn provides us with a rare opportunity to assess how people really feel, since it's something pursued in private and purely for self indulgence.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Tesseracts » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:43 am

ghijkmnop wrote:Perhaps, but as several have admitted, and analyzed-- personal preferences do not equate to an "ism." This is simply mental masturbation, in my opinion. Pun intended, of course.

That depends, a sexual preference for a certain race may not be racist, but the belief that white women who sleep with black men are disgusting is probably racist.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Tesseracts » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:21 am

ghijkmnop wrote:And who among us actually believes the latter?

As an aside-- the phrase "she's been ruined for white men" has meant absolutely the opposite for me when I've read it-- to me it meant that a white man would never satisfy her after the experience with a black man. But that's a different kind of "ism", I guess.

It's highly unlikely anyone here believes that, but the evidence in the Cracked article seems to show there are those who believe it. I'm not trying to attack you, this is just my opinion on why this information about pornography is relevant to society as a whole.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby sunglasses » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:00 am

ghijkmnop wrote:And who among us actually believes the latter?

As an aside-- the phrase "she's been ruined for white men" has meant absolutely the opposite for me when I've read it-- to me it meant that a white man would never satisfy her after the experience with a black man. But that's a different kind of "ism", I guess.


The statement was explained to me by my male kinfolk that white women had been dirtied by the others rather then the other suggestion.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby EstebanColberto » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:50 am

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Tesseracts wrote:Yeah, racists don't see black people as human beings. They also believe women are submissive to men, and white women belong to white men. A non white man with a white woman is considered stealing.


holy shit, so much this.

I remember hearing tales from my HS friends (all female) of them being legitimately terrified if someone even hinted to their father that they might be attracted to someone with melanin. I had a friend who was interested in this guy we'll call Paul. Paul was nice but was very frustrated. He had just had a talk with, let's call her Nell, and she had made him aware that she couldn't date him because of her father. He said to me, "Well isn't that racist?" I said to him, "yeah, but she's 16, dude. We can't go against our fathers on something like this-not unless we want to be shamed or worse."


As far as parents go, this is spot on, but among my peers it was slightly different. There were a lot of girls in HS that only dated black guys and decided to flaunt that label proudly. Some white guys saw this as competition even though every white guy was competing with every other white guy for sex, so what difference did it really make that a black guy gets introduced?

I figured out that 1) black guys were trying to hook up with white women. 2) white guys were trying to hook up with white women. 3) there must be a lot of lonely black women in my neighborhood. 4) Giggity.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Marcuse » Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:14 am

ghijkmnop wrote:Honestly, I have to wonder why we are even bothering to discuss this. IMO, this falls in the category of micromanagement. There are very big pictures we need to concern ourselves with before addressing racism in porn.


This is a redder than red herring. We don't "address" anything in any way whatsoever, we pointlessly discuss issues to no effect and no result. Nothing we do will help stop or address racism anywhere except among ourselves, and even then there's no big racism tracker on the site front that allows us to assess that, even were we stupid enough to try to use the site to make everyone believe what we believe, which we don't.

So discussing this is a roughly approximate waste of time to us discussing one of these bigger pictures, because nothing we say here will ever have enough importance or cultural relevance to be able to affect them on a structural level. As such there's no real point in complaining that we're discussing a non-issue beyond trying to shut it down.

Perhaps, but as several have admitted, and analyzed-- personal preferences do not equate to an "ism." This is simply mental masturbation, in my opinion. Pun intended, of course.


Exactly, which is why I'm mystified why people keep talking about preference over generalisations based on race when it's been pretty comprehensively stated that preference =/= racist generalisations.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby LegionofShrooms » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:54 pm

Tesseracts wrote:
ghijkmnop wrote:And who among us actually believes the latter?

As an aside-- the phrase "she's been ruined for white men" has meant absolutely the opposite for me when I've read it-- to me it meant that a white man would never satisfy her after the experience with a black man. But that's a different kind of "ism", I guess.

It's highly unlikely anyone here believes that, but the evidence in the Cracked article seems to show there are those who believe it. I'm not trying to attack you, this is just my opinion on why this information about pornography is relevant to society as a whole.


Not really relevant to the discussion as a whole, but I've found the whole "black men are better because they are bigger" stereotype rather ludicrous since being with my wife as

1) She's actually had issue with larger exes due to size causing pain, rendering her physically unable to have sex with them and
2) The largest man she's been with is in fact an Asian man, who often suffer from the opposite stereotype
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Grimstone » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:06 pm

I think insecurity plays a major role in guys who experience jealousy/anger towards white women for dating black men, and unless you rule out dating an entire race based on principle then it's just a preference and not a prejudice IMO.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby DanteHoratio » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:35 pm

Personally, I don't see it as racist to not be attracted to people of a different race. Most people are interested and attracted to people who share the same race, it's normal and not at all racist. Why else do you think white people are usually married or dating white people or how black people are usually married or dating black people and so on and so forth.

We're all different in terms of what we are attracted to. And that's ok.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby selena81 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:20 am

DanteHoratio wrote:Personally, I don't see it as racist to not be attracted to people of a different race. Most people are interested and attracted to people who share the same race, it's normal and not at all racist. Why else do you think white people are usually married or dating white people or how black people are usually married or dating black people and so on and so forth.


i'm chalking most of that up to convenience actually: easier to meet, easier to bond with.

take that convenience away (someone lacks social skills f.i.) and these same white people go fishing for mailorder brides/grooms in africa or asia.
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