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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Krashlia » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:50 am

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Kivutar wrote:I am exclusively attracted to other races, and white guys make me feel icky. Does that mean that I am racist against my own race?


...Thats a distinct possibility.


If a neo-nazi is attracted to black women is he not racist? If I am only attracted to females am I sexist? Is this your line of reasoning or is this a misunderstanding on my part?


Well, would he still be racist? the question is if his attraction to black women is part of it, does his attraction to black women hold some special meaning in relation to his racism (is it a fetish or taboo), or is it just her?
...then again, I'm not sure it would actually change much about the fact that he's a racist if he was attracted to a black woman because she was a woman. I highly doubt sleeping with the type of person he's bigoted against would actually "cure" him, or make anything better.
or maybe I should just handwave by just saying, "Its complicated".

I said "distinct possibility" because I dont know whats going on in Kivutar's head. and perhaps it is racism. If then, hey, I'll come out admit it for myself, If you (persumably a female) don't look like you are from this part of the hemisphere I might not find you attractive. So most asians are out of the gene pool.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby EstebanColberto » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:26 am

The Entertainment industry's hiring practices are pretty much a snapshot of our views towards race and sexuality, but porn is probably the most perfect reflection.

Porn is the most perfect example of a free market at work. Why does BBW porn make so much money while there's no BBW Hollywood Stars? Cause some guys are chubby chasers. It acts entirely with the free market. The reason why black actresses have sex with white men and white actresses refuse to have sex with black men is that every single pornstar is a private contractor. I live around people that think the races should be separated, but suddenly change their tune when black women are involved. The problem isn't with the industry trying to make a buck, it's the people that get stark raving mad when a pornstar decides to have sex with a black man. The porn producer is just trying to make a buck.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby sunglasses » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:17 pm

While I think I get what you're saying, esteban, I think saying it's because they're a private contractor is a bit thin.

If someone, who was a private contractor or from a private agency, said they weren't going to work with black men at the hospital it would not go over well.

Some people act super stupid about sex and races. I had a friend who said her sister was 'ruined for white men' having been married to a Mexican. How?! HOW?! Is there a sign that magically shows up on the labia that says, "White men no enter?" And don't even get me started on the misguided notion that having sex with people with large penii (regardless of race) permanently causes looseness. No, that would be age and number of children.

I've heard (white men) who use a variety of slurs regarding ethnicities say that well, "it's ok for a white man to have sex with a black woman but not the other way around." GAH.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Marcuse » Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:34 pm

The reason why black actresses have sex with white men and white actresses refuse to have sex with black men is that every single pornstar is a private contractor


That's not what the article said. It said that white people could refuse black people, but not the other way round. The problem here is that you're presuming that people are being afforded the same discretion because they're private contractors, when the article is saying that some of those private contractors are afforded additional discretion because of generalisations based on race. That's not the same as everyone having equality of opportunity (ie, anyone can refuse anyone) but there being a trend toward one thing. It's literally the explicit (XD) title of section 4.

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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Matthew Notch » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:16 pm

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I've heard (white men) who use a variety of slurs regarding ethnicities say that well, "it's ok for a white man to have sex with a black woman but not the other way around." GAH.


It's okay for a white man to have sex with a black woman but it's not okay for a black woman to have sex with a white man? That seems either confusing or super rapey. That's a joke BTW.

I'm weird I guess because I can actually understand why some porn actresses would be hesitant about working with black men. It's generalizing at best to say all black men have large penises, but not to say that all black porn actors have ENORMOUS penises. That's just what their half of the industry is after. Doesn't make it right, just makes it what it is. I remember watching a special on TV at one point with a couple who were both porn performers, and she talked about how if she'd had a particularly large one that day at shooting, there might even be a little tearing and she just had to recuperate for a while. TEARING. Yeouch, son.

So I don't know. I don't think it's necessarily that these women just find black men icky, but they, you know, don't want to get absolutely wrecked at work. I can respect that.

As far as attraction based on race, I don't know. I think and think about this and I still have no idea. Maybe it's racist to just reject an entire group of people out of hand based on something as surface as skin color, but then again, that's one of the first things you'll notice about anyone. I like all types of ladies but I have discovered that I am particularly attracted to Asian women and redheads with pale skin. Don't know why. And wouldn't you know it, the woman I married is neither one of those things. I guess the best thing to do is keep an open mind, but it's not like you're a bad person if you just aren't particularly attracted to someone who is a certain color or body type or whatever. That's a primal thing and not always dictated by the higher functions of equality and inclusiveness.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby skooma » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:24 pm

sunglasses wrote:I've heard (white men) who use a variety of slurs regarding ethnicities say that well, "it's ok for a white man to have sex with a black woman but not the other way around." GAH.


I always found it hysterical how many white guys, whenever you have your first disagreement or whatever, suddenly remember and have to mention that you've been with black guys. Especially funny because I assumed it's some weird guy terror about size; they attempt to not be openly racist, just say that you like, prefer, or with no context, have had sex with, even trying things like dusky, dark or darker meat for a eupemism. Not so funny that there are enough for it to be a thing.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby EstebanColberto » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:59 am

sunglasses wrote:I had a friend who said her sister was 'ruined for white men' having been married to a Mexican. How?! HOW?! Is there a sign that magically shows up on the labia that says, "White men no enter?" And don't even get me started on the misguided notion that having sex with people with large penii (regardless of race) permanently causes looseness. No, that would be age and number of children.

I've heard (white men) who use a variety of slurs regarding ethnicity say that well, "it's ok for a white man to have sex with a black woman but not the other way around." GAH.


Just so we're clear, I think it's fucked up. I know the same people that are no longer attracted to a woman if they find out they fucked a black or Mexican man. It's just that I don't think the porn industry is racist. Society is racist and that puts pressures on the porn industry and they produce the porn that society wants. When a woman refuses to have sex with a black man on camera cause it might ruin her brand, she's absolutely correct. It does ruin her brand. A huge section of her white followers will no longer look at her videos cause she had sex with a black man. It's racist as hell, but it's not her, or the industry's fault.

After Gene Roddenberry died, George Takei said in interviews that he told Gene he was gay. Gene said he was trying really hard to bring issues of race into the national discussion. If he had brought gays into the show, it would be taken off the air immediately. He was basically told to wait his turn. I don't think Gene Roddenberry was homophobic, he was pragmatic.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Kivutar » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:26 pm

EstebanColberto wrote:I know the same people that are no longer attracted to a woman if they find out they fucked a black or Mexican man.


For the love of God, why?
Racism I can understand intellectually: tribalism, us vs. them, etc.
Wanting a virgin also makes some sense, making 100% sure your offpring is your own, cultural atitudes, not wanting to compete penis-wise, etc.
But saying: "It's ok if you previously had sex with a white man, but a different-coloured man? Whore!"

That makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Tesseracts » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:15 pm

It makes sense if you're a racist piece of shit like most of America apparently is.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Windy » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:49 pm

sunglasses wrote:While I think I get what you're saying, esteban, I think saying it's because they're a private contractor is a bit thin.

If someone, who was a private contractor or from a private agency, said they weren't going to work with black men at the hospital it would not go over well.


Acting isn't a normal career. It's legal to discriminate based on sex/race if it's required for the role you're looking for (e.g. A movie about Hamlet would require a male lead).
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby SandTea » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:50 pm

Kivutar wrote:"It's ok if you previously had sex with a white man, but a different-coloured man? Whore!"

That makes no fucking sense whatsoever.


As I said earlier I knew a lot of people with this attitude. Someone else touched on this here but allow me to elaborate. It's not about perceived penis size or whoreishness, to them it goes to 'character'. A woman could be the biggest slut in the world and it wouldn't matter one bit to them as long as she only bangs whites. It's the "sub-human" perspective. To them if a girl is willing to lower herself to such standard, yes she'll be called a dick hungry whore but more importantly to them, they see her as a bad person. Like morally bad. As if she was a pedo or dog fucker. "you let black guys do you? They are horrible people. Might as well suck off hitler" (although they probably wouldn't use hitler as an example). So yea 'character' and also super racist/sexist. I mean, they can still bang black girls of course and not be tainted.

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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Tesseracts » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:56 pm

Yeah, racists don't see black people as human beings. They also believe women are submissive to men, and white women belong to white men. A non white man with a white woman is considered stealing.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby sunglasses » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:20 pm

Tesseracts wrote:Yeah, racists don't see black people as human beings. They also believe women are submissive to men, and white women belong to white men. A non white man with a white woman is considered stealing.


holy shit, so much this.

I remember hearing tales from my HS friends (all female) of them being legitimately terrified if someone even hinted to their father that they might be attracted to someone with melanin. I had a friend who was interested in this guy we'll call Paul. Paul was nice but was very frustrated. He had just had a talk with, let's call her Nell, and she had made him aware that she couldn't date him because of her father. He said to me, "Well isn't that racist?" I said to him, "yeah, but she's 16, dude. We can't go against our fathers on something like this-not unless we want to be shamed or worse."
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby TheSyrupNugget » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:55 pm

I would argue that not being attracted to... whatever race is a form of prejudice, but at the same time, I don't think it's a harmful prejudice- You know, assuming that the unattracted party isn't actively insulting or devaluing people of that race because of it.

For example, I don't think I would be comfortable being sexually intimate with a trans woman. I recognize that she IS a woman, I recognize that ruling out an otherwise amazing match because of her equipment not being compatible is theoretically a little ridiculous, but it's just a bias of mine.

Everyone has biases, and they're entitled to those biases, I think, as long as they're not being acted on in a harmful way.
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