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5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Deathclaw_Puncher » Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:15 pm

http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2208-going-black-hurts-your-career-5-examples-racism-in-porn.html

So, not only is Cracked saying that you're racist if you don't find black people attractive, but apparently, if you identify as White, you're a liar, even if you're European.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Tesseracts » Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:33 pm

It's actually pretty interesting that whites will refuse to do porn with black actors because they believe it devalues their brand. This says a lot about the racism of people who watch porn.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Deathclaw_Puncher » Sun Mar 20, 2016 6:50 pm

Race don't matter if it's hentai.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby SandTea » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:49 pm

I do prefer dubbed anime, does that mean I'm racist?

Yes though tesseracts, I have known too many people who advocate the "tainted" point of view. I'm sure it carries over into porn for them as well. It's entertainment so while it is racist it's also a good business decision for the agents to inform their clients. Is it the industry being racist or realistic in knowing it's audience is? Entertainment is tricky since you need the people to sell to and if your top sellers are interracial pornos, I'd say pay them the top salary but according to the article that doesn't happen so yeah, that's bad.

There's also the fact that 'I'm' not watching two people do it. 'I'm' watching fantasy me doing the girl. At least for myself that's the case. So are the viewers racist or just majority white? Idk I've gone and confused myself.

I don't like midget porn or granny porn or gay porn but I don't hate little people or grandmothers or the lgbt. If saying interracial porn is a fetish so it's racist then wouldn't that make me ableist, ageist and homophobic? I just want, if I'm being honest, to watch one beautiful girl being fucked and since 'eye of the beholder' this is similar to those "you have to be attracted to me otherwise you're a bad person" tumbler folk. There are plenty of people from every race I do not want to insert (giggle) myself into the fantasy role of "yes, that's what I'd like do with you".

Some extra (cr)edit- on the fantasy note, I also hate the weird awkward positions. I can't put my self in that role of the guy just doing it all... wrong so the camera can get a shot, like some weird right angle doggy style action. It takes me out of it. I think that might compare to someone saying "well the size is right but the color is all off"
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Deathclaw_Puncher » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:51 pm

SandTea wrote:I do prefer dubbed anime, does that mean I'm racist?


No, but it is limiting yourself to the mainstream, like Naruto and Attack on Titan.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Marcuse » Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:24 pm

Well, I'm not sure where the article said any of the things Eric is suggesting. I found it to be more or less the same kind of thing I've seen about the internets. Black people are treated as some kind of subhuman and having sex with them is usually presented with the same appeal as one might expect a freak show would have: normal person interacts with wholly abnormal person with interesting results. Even the justification for white actresses to charge more to have sex with black men (that their penises are larger) is stereotyping. As for paying black women less, well I don't know if I've ever seen a more clear example of racism before.

On the flip side, is the focus on white women because porn is primarily a white phenomenon? I don't think that's the case, I saw some weird shit when I looked up Ghanaian films for my article a while back, but they (perhaps understandably) used entirely black actors in their productions. Is porn in a majority white country a white phenomenon? Possibly. It doesn't really justify the exoticism displayed towards black performers, though I think it maybe explains it.

But then this seems to be another example of something that's probably okay for an individual to say not being okay when its adopted as a principle. Saying as an individual that you don't find something attractive or sexy is basically an expression of personal feeling, saying that white people as a group don't find something attractive, therefore a hook (such as fetishism or exoticism) needs to be added otherwise people won't want to watch is where the racism creeps in, and the practices they've adopted in service to that principle seem to be pretty racist as a result.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby gregfrankenstein » Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:08 pm

It's definitely not always racism if you don't find black people attractive, but it's a factor. I used to go around claiming I was only attracted to white people, because I only ever associated with white people and almost exclusively watched media with white people in it. Go figure, when you're exposed to that many white people you're going to see some good looking ones.

Besides, the article is about double standards more than anything. If a black porn star could say "I don't work with white people" and still get work, I don't think the author would have an issue.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Grimstone » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:10 am

Ericthebearjew wrote:http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2208-going-black-hurts-your-career-5-examples-racism-in-porn.html

So, not only is Cracked saying that you're racist if you don't find black people attractive, but apparently, if you identify as White, you're a liar, even if you're European.


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There exist general differences between 'racial classifications' and their associated physical traits, and this is what I believe causes people to feel attracted/unattracted to certain 'races'. However, as far as I know there isn't any official definition of what constitutes a race, and even as a social construct, perceptions of what characteristics belong to the conception of any given race at any given time can change. This is why, for me at least, one can find their selves attracted to another person, even though they normally wouldn't be due to their 'race'. Not to mention the fact that attraction is subjective, and therefore it doesn't make sense to describe it as being a prejudice since it's not subject to reason/objectivity in the first place.

Example of racial classifications being used in the real world:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_anthropology#Determination_of_ancestry
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Windy » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:41 pm

SandTea wrote:I do prefer dubbed anime, does that mean I'm racist?


BURN THE HERETIC

Marcuse wrote:As for paying black women less, well I don't know if I've ever seen a more clear example of racism before.


Male performers get paid less than women in the porn industry too. Clear example of sexism?
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby gisambards » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:56 pm

Windy wrote:Male performers get paid less than women in the porn industry too. Clear example of sexism?

Probably, given that there isn't really a supply-and-demand-based reason for this - there isn't a comparative surplus of male performers, and demand for them isn't low, so there's no real explanation for male performers to be paid less. If anything, if pay was based purely on supply-and-demand, male performers would probably have to be paid more than women.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Tesseracts » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:16 pm

gisambards wrote:
Windy wrote:Male performers get paid less than women in the porn industry too. Clear example of sexism?

Probably, given that there isn't really a supply-and-demand-based reason for this - there isn't a comparative surplus of male performers, and demand for them isn't low, so there's no real explanation for male performers to be paid less. If anything, if pay was based purely on supply-and-demand, male performers would probably have to be paid more than women.

I think it's definitely a supply and demand thing, most porn is produced for heterosexual men. I also don't know why you think there isn't a surplus of male performers. In art it can be hard to get female nude models.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby gisambards » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:31 pm

Tesseracts wrote:
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Windy wrote:Male performers get paid less than women in the porn industry too. Clear example of sexism?

Probably, given that there isn't really a supply-and-demand-based reason for this - there isn't a comparative surplus of male performers, and demand for them isn't low, so there's no real explanation for male performers to be paid less. If anything, if pay was based purely on supply-and-demand, male performers would probably have to be paid more than women.

I think it's definitely a supply and demand thing, most porn is produced for heterosexual men. I also don't know why you think there isn't a surplus of male performers. In art it can be hard to get female nude models.

Most heterosexual porn still contains a male performer, so demand should be pretty high. I think there's a lack of male performers because most of the documentary evidence I've seen suggests that to be the case - and there's certainly no way there are more male performers than female.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby Grimstone » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:31 am

It seems that the porn industry's pay scale takes into consideration the willingness of an actor to do a scene, which might explain the discrepancy between male and female earnings.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby NathanLoiselle » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:51 am

You know all these posts and not one joke. So in that vein...

My penis isn't racist. It'll fuck anyone over.
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Re: 5 Examples of Racism In Porn

Postby LegionofShrooms » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:34 am

Ericthebearjew wrote:http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2208-going-black-hurts-your-career-5-examples-racism-in-porn.html

So, not only is Cracked saying that you're racist if you don't find black people attractive, but apparently, if you identify as White, you're a liar, even if you're European.


Wait. My penis identifies as white but finds black people attractive. What does this make me?

On a more serious note, a lot of the article seems like race is an issue within the industry, but it's not necessarily the industry that's racist.

I know that doesn't make a lot of sense, but let me explain. Every instance or "actresses said" in the article seems to site that it's essentially catering to the most popular demographics in porn, rather than inherent issues that those that run the industry have with minority actors and actresses. Major porn companies know white porn is in higher demand and that they could alienate their core purchasers by developing a reputation for producing a certain subset of movies, resulting in alienating the performers instead.

To whit-it's less an issue of corporate bigotry and more an issue of corporate greed. That doesn't make it or the effects it has on those that take part in these films any less wrong, but it is worth examining the most likely motives coming into play in my opinion if you're going to draw attention to these issues and posit ideas regarding how to go about fixing them.

Now if you'll excuse me, Big Ghetto Tits and Large White Dicks 4-Breaking Down the Barriers (heh) is open in my other tab, and I have some... Research into the porn industry to do.

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SandTea wrote:I do prefer dubbed anime, does that mean I'm racist?


No, but it is limiting yourself to the mainstream, like Naruto and Attack on Titan.


Cowboy Bebop and Fullmetal Alchemist would like to have a word with you.
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