Edgar Cabrera wrote:Kate wrote:...I must say, I looked it up and you are right. In fact this might be the stupidest thing I've read this month.
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What the bull-fucking shit was that?!?!?!
Kate wrote: So I kind of agree and kind of disagree. Have you ever met someone who just hates men? Or white people? And they say these things about men and white people, and that convinces other people to hate men and white people, which furthers the division.
Yes, the "less privileged" (yeah I can't think of a better term either) get hit way harder, but they also help feed the problem when they strike back in unhelpful ways. And by they I guess I mean we, too, since I'm a woman. I agree that individual slights do form a culture-wide problem, but that works both ways. It does more than hurt people's feelings, it:
1. Breeds resentment against both the privileged and less privileged individuals; white people and men (these are just general things here) will get offended by their feelings being hurt and more than that, being told to just suck it up, which leads people who were borderline racist or sexist over the line. On the other side, people might listen and start believing those things themselves. I won't blame anyone in the African American community for hating "whitey" because there's a long history of abuse and oppression and that's hard to move past, and racism persists to this day so they can always find evidence to confirm that white people are evil crackers who don't deserve respect, but it doesn't actually help and it makes the problem worse.
2. Leads to less empathy for "privileged" individuals and assumptions that they don't need help as individuals or their voices don't matter as individuals, since they're privileged. This can lead to things like saying that men can't be raped by women, or that even if men are sexually abused, it's not as bad as women being sexually abused. Men are cut out from having a voice on an issue that affects them, and it's thought to be the reason that adolescent male sexual assault victims are slightly more likely to commit suicide than adolescent female sexual assault victims. So it's possible that it literally contributes to people dying.
3. Polarizes people in a way that doesn't help; this is a lot like my first point, sure, but it's a slightly different thing. It's not to do with resentment, it just creates situations where people "stick to their own kind" because it feels safer. That means people are less likely to be exposed to people who are different from them, which makes them more vulnerable to forming prejudices about them.
So the big problem with all three of these is that they just feed the flames. In my opinion, anything that makes the situation worse is a bad thing, and I think it should not be discouraged to call people out equally for contributing to it.
There are productive ways to fight privilege bias, but being racist or sexist (even as a minority) isn't harmless on a cultural level, it makes things worse, precisely because of your first sentence in the quote.
Edgar Cabrera wrote:Kate wrote:...I must say, I looked it up and you are right. In fact this might be the stupidest thing I've read this month.
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What the bull-fucking shit was that?!?!?!
Matt the Czar wrote:Edgar Cabrera wrote:Kate wrote:...I must say, I looked it up and you are right. In fact this might be the stupidest thing I've read this month.
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What the bull-fucking shit was that?!?!?!
I... thought it was funny. :oops:
AdricDePsycho wrote:Matt the Czar wrote:Edgar Cabrera wrote:Kate wrote:...I must say, I looked it up and you are right. In fact this might be the stupidest thing I've read this month.
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What the bull-fucking shit was that?!?!?!
I... thought it was funny. :oops:
Poe's Law?
OrangeEyebrows wrote:That's Godwin's law. Poe's law is the one where you can't tell the difference between someone being really terrible and someone making fun of terrible people.
FaceTheCitizen wrote:AdricDePsycho wrote:Also: Starlight Glimmer, the villain of MLP Season 5, is probably comparable to Amon from Legend of Korra: she preaches equality by removing everyone's uniqueness and freewill (in Amon's case, bending, and in Starlight's case, cutie marks), but is secretly a hypocrite that doesn't practice what they preach (Amon is really a waterbender, and Starlight never got rid of her cutie mark). Starlight, though, is a complete psycho, and practically has a nervous breakdown by the end (PLUS SHE DOESN'T GET CAUGHT!!! SHE COULD RETURN, GUYS!!!!!). In my honest opinion, she trumps Nightmare Moon, Discord, Queen Chrysalis, AND Tirek (YES, FUCKING TIREK) as the best MLP villain, just because she is such a complete sociopath (no offense to Mr. Sociopath).
I don't watch MLP, but with Amon, I think the hypocrisy isn't really because he doesn't practice what he preaches, is that he kinda can't. I don't think Amon has the power to remove his own bending, and all signs point to him actually believing that bending is evil. Amon can be compared to a self-hating black man who joins the KKK. They know they're a member of the group they hate, but they genuinely think their group is evil/subhuman and they have to fix the problem.
Not that it mattered: Amon's plan wouldn't have worked anyways. Even if one's bending is removed, their children will be benders anyways (after Aang removed Yakone's bending ability, he had two waterbending children, one of whom is, surprise, Amon) so Amon's plan would have been destroyed within a generation.
NotCIAAgent wrote:You have been diddled with, a la Poe style. <3
NotCIAAgent wrote:
No, you got it wrong, is not a gender divide. If a woman likes Transformers, WWE, Call of Duty, great for her! You go girl, show them you don't need those gender roles!
Now, if a guy tries to get into girl stuff, he's gonna have a hard time. SPECIALLY now that the SJWs have declared war on the gays. But luckily, is not that widespread of a problem, being mostly restricted to the internet.
I personally recommend you to be attentive and supportive, but don't rush your partner to any decisions, and if shows signs of depression, always suggest a visit to a therapist. It never hurts.
NotCIAAgent wrote:Well, sorry to hear about your personal issues relating to your tastes, but I must congratulate you on your posture towards what happened recently between you and your girlfriend, and the stoicism you're applying to the situation. Truly exemplar.
I wish you luck. Carry on.
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