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Postby AdricDePsycho » Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:18 pm

I'm not really into hate. Even with miserable groups like ISIS and the KKK, I shouldn't hate them. When you actively hate someone, you take the risk of becoming just like them. Look at the Civil Rights Movement: while the people that followed Dr. King were nonviolent in the fight for equal rights, there was still that group that wanted separation of the races, and fought racism with violence and rioting. I would be lying if I didn't say that I have felt hatred towards people that have regularly treated me like crap, but I can't act on my feelings of anger. Wasn't it Nietzsche that warned of "starring into the abyss and the abyss staring back"? That's my biggest worry about hate: pretty soon, you become what you hated.
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby Gendry » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:29 am

AdricDePsycho wrote:I'm not really into hate. Even with miserable groups like ISIS and the KKK, I shouldn't hate them. When you actively hate someone, you take the risk of becoming just like them. Look at the Civil Rights Movement: while the people that followed Dr. King were nonviolent in the fight for equal rights, there was still that group that wanted separation of the races, and fought racism with violence and rioting. I would be lying if I didn't say that I have felt hatred towards people that have regularly treated me like crap, but I can't act on my feelings of anger. Wasn't it Nietzsche that warned of "starring into the abyss and the abyss staring back"? That's my biggest worry about hate: pretty soon, you become what you hated.

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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby Tesseracts » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:13 pm

AdricDePsycho wrote:I'm not really into hate.

I'm not into hate either. I used to be into it, but then everybody jumped on that bandwagon. Now that everybody is into hate they have completely ruined that scene, so I bailed.
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby sunglasses » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:20 pm

Tesseracts wrote:
AdricDePsycho wrote:I'm not really into hate.

I'm not into hate either. I used to be into it, but then everybody jumped on that bandwagon. Now that everybody is into hate they have completely ruined that scene, so I bailed.


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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby SandTea » Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:33 pm

Breaking News: Kids are no longer allowed to play outside.

I would have been arrested so many times. I even went hiking in the woods alone! That's where like evil clowns live and stuff.
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby OrangeEyebrows » Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:48 pm

I actually think 6 is too young to be out alone and 10 is too young to supervise a six-year-old. I also think the term "free range kids" is stupid. Are they also organic and gluten free?
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby JamishT » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:00 pm

The Above Article wrote:Montgomery County ruled that they were guilty of unsubstantiated child neglect. Which means no one could decide who was right.


Ugh. "Well, we can't decide if you're guilty, so you're guilty" seems so stupid.

Edit (Orange posted while I was writing):
I think it depends on the children. I've met some 6 and 10 year olds that definitely shouldn't run around alone, but I've met those that are fine to be on their own. Also, while I understand the annoyance at the term "free range kids", but I can't think of a better term.
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby OrangeEyebrows » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:08 pm

True, but as with various other things, there has to be some kind of arbitrary cutoff age below which it is not acceptable / legal. Otherwise no action can be taken against people who go off and leave a toddler unattended or whatever.
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby JamishT » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:16 pm

Oh for sure, but I hesitate to call a six year old a toddler. That's all. :)
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby OrangeEyebrows » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:19 pm

Definitely not a toddler, but I still think it's too young. Obviously your mileage may vary.
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby SandTea » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:41 pm

OrangeEyebrows wrote:I actually think 6 is too young to be out alone and 10 is too young to supervise a six-year-old. I also think the term "free range kids" is stupid. Are they also organic and gluten free?


I only sorta agree. At the end of the article is a good little thing about some guidelines.

● Can your child tell, in such a way that his speech is understood by a school crossing guard or police where he lives?

● Can he travel alone in the neighborhood (four to eight blocks) to store, school, playground, or to a friend’s home?

● Can he be away from you all day without being upset?
from 1979.

While I loathe the idea of age limits and such (get a purple heart but not a beer, type things) I understand the need for some sorta guidelines and that no rule will ever fit every circumstance, it's still strange to me. Kids are dumb and annoying and maybe they are little brats who push other kids at the park and can't be punished by parents who are there, it just seems like... what was that stupid quote about porn, "You know it when I see it". The parents who leave their kids in a car to go wine tasting =/= letting kids go two blocks to the park.

Oh and yes "free range kids" is dumb but does remind me of something I think every time a restaurant advertises their chicken as 'free range'; "ah yes, I can taste their hope"
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Postby Deathclaw_Puncher » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:53 pm

OrangeEyebrows wrote: Are they also organic and gluten free?

Yep! :3
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby Tuli » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:58 pm

I probably wouldn't let a 6 year old run around alone, but I think 10 and 6 is fine. The age difference between me and my younger brother is 3 years so when he went to first grade, you bet it was me who walked him to and from school (our school was about 10 minutes away). We also played all over the neighborhood and we live in the city, not some suburb. I had a classmate with an overprotective mom who escorted her to school until 4th grade or something (even though she lived about as far from school as me), and didn't let her out of their yard to play... she was the exception, not the rule, and super embarrassed about it too. :P Plenty of kids also use public transport on their own to get to school here.
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Re: Every mention of parents in this should be in scare quo

Postby AboveGL » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:11 pm

I can't remember the last time a truly hated someone. Nowadays, I just get nasty flashes of anger and I make all the effort I can not to act on them.
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