The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

Postby Marcuse » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:22 pm

Anglerphobe wrote:People getting upset about the "GOT style violence" in a period drama about a part of British history known for exactly the kind of historical brutality that gets GRR Martin's pen moving. The irony is real.


I don't know. While the violence in the show was supposedly historically accurate, the claims I read about it were that the violence was improperly focused on women, falling into a trope in media that women are killed or harmed in order to generate sympathy, when mostly it was men who suffered violent deaths for the crime of being Catholic. It is ironic that they claim that it's "GOT inspired" but it's kind of pertinent given the show stars Kit Harington and GoT popularised a kind of violence that wasn't really heard of on TV much before the massive success of GoT. If you look at it from a television production sense, it makes sense, just not from a chronological historical sense.
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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

Postby Anglerphobe » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:54 pm

Women were executed in England for High Treason during the post-reformation. The scene in the show was based on the execution of Margaret Clitherow, who actually died about twenty years earlier under Elizabeth's reign for refusing to give a plea for the crime of which she was accused. The press was a standard punishment for people who didn't plea for capital offences in the sixteenth century, though her death was controversial at the time because of her sex.

Regardless, it would be tantamount to whitewashing to omit the persecution that Catholic collaborators experienced at the time. It was one of Catesby's foremost motives as members of his family and social circles were at risk of grisly death because of it. Ultimately, he was prepared to massacre hundreds of people and trigger a civil war. You have to show how he came to that mentality. The scene is horrible, but it should be. It holds up dramatically as a way of representing the importance of Catesby's struggle as he perceived it.

Moreover, what else could the viewing public expect of a series about the gunpowder plotters? Admittedly, I haven't seen the series myself, but people are complaining about an irreducible aspect of the story being told here, I feel.
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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

Postby Marcuse » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:50 pm

Moreover, what else could the viewing public expect of a series about the gunpowder plotters? Admittedly, I haven't seen the series myself, but people are complaining about an irreducible aspect of the story being told here, I feel.


Personally, I completely agree. But then I won't watch it because its been billed as extremely violent. I don't always want my entertainment to turn my stomach. As historically accurate as I'm sure it is, it's still horrific to the sensibilities of the viewing audience, and I don't think I'll check it out while eating my dinner.
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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

Postby Anglerphobe » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:08 pm

In that case you comfortably qualify as not an idiot on the internet. The people who watched and moaned about it despite the ample warning of the BBC's own disclaimer and history that is taught in primary schools are the idiots I'm referring to here.
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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

Postby DoglovingJim » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:36 pm

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Just because I'm lazy I'd ask that whenever someone posts something like this they also find the link to the actual thing (if possible) so we can read the madness.
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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

Postby BROWNRECLUSE » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:09 am

I don't want that kind of cringe infecting my phone or laptop, nor would I want you to suffer as well.
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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

Postby Tesseracts » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:56 am

I created a new thread for the discussion.
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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

Postby iMURDAu » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:54 pm

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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

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Re: The following people are dumb: idiots on the internet

Postby iMURDAu » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:57 pm

The planes were CG and the people on the ground reacting were the best theater students ever. I can't believe the person making that post didn't mention how they had a plane drop WTC mail from the sky so it landed all over the city. My cousin was living in Park Slope and mail from the WTC ended up on her balcony. There's no way Earth's wind could carry an object that far. And those people in Pennsylvania are way over dedicated to their story of a plane crashing there. You can go there right now, there's not a crashed plane in sight :o
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