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How do you feel about your personal belief (or lack thereof) in a higher power?

I have faith and feel my life is better for it.
14
30%
I have faith and feel my life is worse for it.
0
No votes
I lost my faith and feel my life is better without it.
9
19%
I lost my faith and feel my life is worse without it.
2
4%
I lost my faith and no opinion on how its absence affects my life.
6
13%
I have never had faith and feel my life is better without it.
5
11%
I have never had faith and feel my life is worse without it.
0
No votes
I have never had faith and no opinion on how its absence affects my life.
7
15%
I don't know if I have faith.
1
2%
I'm pretty sure we're living in a computer simulation, does that count as faith?
3
6%
 
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby Twistappel » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:47 pm

FieldMarshalFry wrote:does belief in the God Emperor of Mankind and regular purging of the MUTANT, XENOS AND HERETIC count?

saying no may result in purging

I don't see why not. Faith in a false corpse-god is still faith.
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby FieldMarshalFry » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:15 pm

Sister Morphine wrote:
FieldMarshalFry wrote:does belief in the God Emperor of Mankind and regular purging of the MUTANT, XENOS AND HERETIC count?

saying no may result in purging

I don't see why not. Faith in a false corpse-god is still faith.

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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby satan_n_stuff » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:11 pm

Never had faith, that's just the way I like it.

It means that there is no higher power dictating what I can or will be and do, my purpose and morality are mine to decide.
It means that the universe is inherently chaotic, that random tragedy is just that but also that everything is amazing because there is no omnipotent omniscient puppetmaster to take credit for it or for all of the incredible things we've done and will do.

I am a trans-humanist, though not one of the ones who wants to create a machine messiah and that doesn't require faith regardless, rather it takes extrapolation and/or directed effort.

Getting slightly off-topic, the reason I wouldn't want to create a machine messiah is that I don't believe we'd need a singular regulating intelligence when we'd reach the point where that becomes feasible. It also offends my sensibilities to want to put the entire human race under control of what would effectively be a dictator at a point when a true democracy should be possible.
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby cmsellers » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:19 am

satan_n_stuff wrote:Never had faith, that's just the way I like it.

It means that there is no higher power dictating what I can or will be and do, my purpose and morality are mine to decide.

Well of course you would say that.
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby Malfeasinator » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:55 am

satan_n_stuff wrote:Never had faith, that's just the way I like it.

It means that there is no higher power dictating what I can or will be and do, my purpose and morality are mine to decide.
It means that the universe is inherently chaotic, that random tragedy is just that but also that everything is amazing because there is no omnipotent omniscient puppetmaster to take credit for it or for all of the incredible things we've done and will do.

I am a trans-humanist, though not one of the ones who wants to create a machine messiah and that doesn't require faith regardless, rather it takes extrapolation and/or directed effort.

Getting slightly off-topic, the reason I wouldn't want to create a machine messiah is that I don't believe we'd need a singular regulating intelligence when we'd reach the point where that becomes feasible. It also offends my sensibilities to want to put the entire human race under control of what would effectively be a dictator at a point when a true democracy should be possible.


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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby D-LOGAN » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:31 am

So I've thinking about this whole Christianity fad we have going on here and while I suppose it has it's charms, at the end of the day it is a foreign, and therefore bad, religion, not to mention it's cultural appropriation when you think about it. So I've been mulling over dropping it and going back to my pagan ancestors' roots and switch to worshiping Taranis, the ancient Celtic god of wheels!

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Now THIS is a religion!!!



There is a slight problem however, given that T-Dog up there requires sacrifices in the form of burning people alive, which unfortunately I've been lead to understand is against regulations. I mean, I've written a letter to the county council explaining the situation and requesting an exemption, but I doesn't look good. Apparently it's still considered a form of murder. Bloody beaurocrats.

I mean at the end of the day if a man can't lure a hobo into his van, chloroform him, take him out into the woods, tie him a post, douse him with petrol, set him on fire and then dance around him naked during a thunderstorm, what's the world coming to? IT'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!!!! I don't know why I bother paying my taxes for at all at all!
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby iMURDAu » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:20 am

Thaaaat's kind of why we started America. Hey imo Taranis is a more valid religious figure than Joseph Smith or Big L. Ron Hubbard. We've also got a homeless "problem" that needs "taken care of" if you're picking up what I'm laying down.

Wheels are pretty sick too. They've revolutionized the world.
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby SandTea » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:52 am

I have always wondered about this-

You get to go party with space ghost coat to coast when you die and it's all happy happy joy joy, right? So if you had a family member who was an atheist or, shit, even did believe but didn't think whatever god was deserving of kneeling worship, they wouldn't get their hand stamped for the disco party; would you still be 'in heaven'? Is separation from your loved ones better than separation from disco stu? Would their absence not make you sad merely because the walrus has the monopoly on feelings?

"That's a nice soul ya got there. Be a shame if something happened to it. Kiss my ring"

I know no amount of evidence could ever convince a believer to think otherwise but I absolutely could become a believer if there was any evidence. 'faith' is just the term people use to justify believing in something for which they have no good reason to. To be fair some people use "faith" like those folk who say evolution is just a "theory". In that, concepts are hard and we suck at conveying them.

Also, which hell am I going to? I'd like to prepare. Ya know, maybe make a few sacrifices. Chant while dancing naked in the woods. Lose some weight in my heart. Toughen up my foot calluses. Something like that.
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby Krashlia » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:33 am

iMURDAu wrote:Thaaaat's kind of why we started America. Hey imo Taranis is a more valid religious figure than Joseph Smith or Big L. Ron Hubbard. We've also got a homeless "problem" that needs "taken care of" if you're picking up what I'm laying down.

Wheels are pretty sick too. They've revolutionized the world.


Skate boarding over hobos isnt a solution. How many times does that have to be said?
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby iMURDAu » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:59 pm

Bart's thriving. Just sayin'.
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby Anglerphobe » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:52 pm

I used to say I could believe in the supernatural if the evidence existed for it, but I've become unsure of that as I've grown older. As I've learned more about the world (via other, more intelligent people learning more about it on my behalf) I've reached the stage where I think my understanding of the world, more than merely not including the idea of a god, doesn't even accommodate it.
Humans have basically given gods and other supernatural powers jurisdiction over all the things we don't understand about the world since the day we started wondering. In all the intervening time, we have come to understand so much of what used to be the doing of god and not dismissed a single thing that we do understand in favour of god. We've come so far with the theory of evolution (for example) that god's involvement simply wouldn't make any sense anymore. With this we end up with a god that, even if existing, doesn't actually matter. A god who might as well not exist at all, because all the shit he's supposed to be in charge of is accounted for in its entirety by nature.
Philosophically, I guess this is just straightforward old fashioned naturalism. I couldn't be religious if I tried. I would pretend, if necessary, to satisfy theocratic death-squads or cults or whatever, but I wouldn't really believe any of it.

Edit: I picked the third option from the bottom, which I thought the closest to ramble above.
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby SandTea » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:58 pm

Anglerphobe wrote:I used to say I could believe in the supernatural if the evidence existed for it, but I've become unsure of that as I've grown older.


Yes, if there's evidence for the supernatural it is no longer supernatural. Like you said, we explained a lot already and this outside of time(?) being(?) is somewhere between ineffectual and cruel.

What I do think though, is that if there was a superpowered all knowing omni-blah, it would absolutely know how to convince me of it's existence without evidence. Some personal revelation shit or what not. It could just change my brain.
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby NathanLoiselle » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:43 am

I have faith that there's at least one elder god out there and he doesn't give two shits about us. So my life is neither better nor worse thanks to my faith. And that wasn't an option!
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Re: How do you feel about your own faith (or lack thereof)?

Postby satan_n_stuff » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:22 am

NathanLoiselle wrote:I have faith that there's at least one elder god out there and he doesn't give two shits about us. So my life is neither better nor worse thanks to my faith. And that wasn't an option!

All hail Azathoth!
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