Has "fat-shaming" gone too far?

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Re: Has "fat-shaming" gone too far?

Postby gregfrankenstein » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:31 am

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Re: Has "fat-shaming" gone too far?

Postby DamianaRaven » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:33 am

*plops down in the nearest chair* A'ight, do what you gotta do!
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Re: Has "fat-shaming" gone too far?

Postby Marcuse » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:32 pm

LaoWai wrote:Dermatologist or not, a doctor is a doctor; when my dentist recently suggested I should quit smoking, I just thought, "Well, he's a (sort of)* doctor, so of course he's going to comment on that."


This isn't strictly comparable though. Dental health is seriously affected by smoking, and a dentist recommending quitting is well within their competence. A dermatologist, seeing someone for a skin problem, may be the same boat I'm not sure. I think that diet affects the skin at the very least, but I don't know how much of a position they're in to be recommending weight loss as an end in itself.
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Re: Has "fat-shaming" gone too far?

Postby Crimson847 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:37 am

Well, let's pray before DuckDuckGo for the answer, then (I'm still boycotting Google).

These look relevant:

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Obe ... blems.aspx

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 1X04000021

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 2206041053

Going through them, it looks like obesity does have effects on the skin, including effects that would be of concern to a dermatologist like increased risk of skin infections.
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Re: Has "fat-shaming" gone too far?

Postby LaoWai » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:20 pm

Legitimate point, Marcuse, and I did think a little about whether that was a false equivalency. Crimson did a great job of providing the actual science behind my reasoning for not rejecting it as a false equivalency. I don't always think about doing those sorts of searches, since (having helped two family members study for degrees in nursing) I tend to just think, "Well, obviously X has deleterious effects on Y."

I probably should have used the much more obvious example of a dermatologist telling a patient to quit smoking (because smoking of course causes major dermatological issues--due to vaso-constriction if nothing else). Again, to me, it'd be a matter of what you should expect when consulting a health professional; they probably are going to mention any negative habits you have.The question really is about how often doctors use "Lose some weight" as a get out of work free card.

I checked out the site Damiana linked to, and I feel as though it's maybe a mix of legitimate problems, some miscommunication, and people just looking to be offended.If some of the stories are dead-on accurate, there are legitimate problems. If some of the stories are just the doctor saying one thing and patients focusing on the most negative or offensive thing, then that's a call for better communication (because I believe that what's perceived is what's communicated).

Posts like "Obesity causes cancer (Really? WTF, I mean, really?!?!) do seem like someone looking to be offended. Um, yeah, obesity is the primary risk factor for mixed Mullerian tumors if you have children and aren't taking estrogen therapy. If you're taking estrogen therapy, that would be required to be cited as a contributing factor.

To be fair, though, if you're seeing a doctor for an actual problem, maybe it's natural to react dramatically to every perceived slight. Seems to me, though, that the way to address that possibility is to focus on communication and maybe some better education of patients (those are maybe the same things).
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Re: Has "fat-shaming" gone too far?

Postby satan_n_stuff » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:26 am

Being overweight increases the risk and severity of a lot of medical issues. That doesn't mean a doctor should take one look at someone and decide their issues are entirely due to them being they're fat. It's entirely possible for any issues to be unrelated, or correlate to being overweight without actually being caused by it. It's a doctor's job to be able to tell the difference.
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