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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby 52xMax » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:13 am

52xMax wrote:I've been hearing about this for weeks, but I dismiss it for the same reason I dismiss other unsubstantiated claims of all kinds, such as, I don't know, Russian hackers backed by Putin messing with the US elections.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/us/po ... sults.html

But what was that again? I know what it's not: evidence.

Also

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... an-hackers

Bloomberg wrote:The careful phrasing does not amount to beyond-a-reasonable-doubt attribution, which, I suspect, is not possible.


Seriously, they're even blaming the Russians for spreading "fake news", along with known Trump shill Mark Zuckerberg. And then there's Jill Stein saying they rigged the votes on swing states (while simultaneously making Hillary win the popular vote by 2 million, for reasons) that Trump is in on all of it (because something something Trump hotel) and that they killed Castro.

Or, you know, Occam's razor again.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby aviel » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:59 pm

I think you and Crimson are talking past each other. Crimson was giving an example of Russian hackers meddling in the US elections; you gave a quote about whether Russian hackers interfered with voting machines specifically. We know that Russian hackers were responsible for leaked emails, and that these leaks were likely intended to push the election to Trump. We also know that there was almost certainly no hacking of voting machines, or other direct distortion of the vote itself.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby iMURDAu » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:13 pm

Yes because all child traffickers are clever enough to use a kids pizza place as a front organization.

Good thing that nutjob had a gun though because could you imagine him liberating a bunch of children from a theoretical basement dungeon without one? I mean, I could but it would result in a low kill count and he'd be easier to capture so he might've failed the mission as a result.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby 52xMax » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:23 pm

I highlighted the relevant parts from the quote he objected to do he'd see what I was talking about. As far as we know and authorities are concerned, there's no link between any of the hacks and the Russian government. The Bloomberg article I linked even admits it might be impossible to prove such a connection. Not that simple things such as facts have ever stopped people from trying to maintain a crumbling narrative.

I was also referring to rigging the vote and people such as Jill Stein insisting the system was tampered, though I admit my wording of that phrase was a bit ambiguous. In any case, that wasn't even the point I was trying to make and now we've gone off topic.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby aviel » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:30 pm

52xMax wrote:I highlighted the relevant parts from the quote he objected to do he'd see what I was talking about. As far as we know and authorities are concerned, there's no link between any of the hacks and the Russian government.

The article you linked says the exact opposite of this. From the official's statement:

The Kremlin probably expected that publicity surrounding the disclosures that followed the Russian Government-directed compromises of e-mails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations, would raise questions about the integrity of the election process that could have undermined the legitimacy of the President-elect.

(emphasis added).

Multiple federal intelligence officials have also arrived at the same conclusion. It's pretty uncontroversial at this point that the email hacks during the election were directed by Russia. That doesn't imply the veracity of any vote-rigging allegations, of course, but neither then does the lack of evidence for vote-rigging allegations relegate Russian-directed email hacks to the status of conspiracy theory.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby sunglasses » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:21 pm

So, about that pizza 'spiracy
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby Aquila89 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:08 pm

Kivutar wrote:This pizza stuff can be filed under "Obvious Nonsense"


There's no such thing anymore. The idea that Trump should be president was obvious nonsense, and yet here we are.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby reallifegirl » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:08 pm

I'm a bad American because all this thread makes me want to do is order pizza for lunch.

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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby Cobra-D » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:32 pm

reallifegirl wrote:I'm a bad American because all this thread makes me want to do is order pizza for lunch.

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Fun fact: a pizza will be the healthiest thing you eat because it includes everything from the food pyramid.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby DashaBlade » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:55 pm

iMURDAu wrote:Yes because all child traffickers are clever enough to use a kids pizza place as a front organization.


And it all happens in their non-existent basement, too. Don't forget that.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby blehblah » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:38 pm

DashaBlade wrote:
iMURDAu wrote:Yes because all child traffickers are clever enough to use a kids pizza place as a front organization.


And it all happens in their non-existent basement, too. Don't forget that.


Pffft, details.

Mind, had the guy shown-up with a backhoe, permits, and a few structural engineers, he could have had a case for digging-up proof, via an HGTV show.

"Look, I know that you know that we all know that you want a basement, and tunnels, to facilitate a Clinton pedophile ring-thingy, and haven't you always wanted a basement? Eh? Of course you do! You signed the release, so move aside."

Geraldo, "This should be a multi-day live event!"

Blitzer, "This just in, in the Situation Room *requisite sound*, digging under the Pizza Bingo Cosmic Pong Ping in search of clues, or possibly, lost balls. Anderson..."

RT, "Trump is great builder, he get to bottom of this, he is great at getting to bottoms *muffled laughter*"

MSNBC, "Building tunnels connecting to a pizza joint is suddenly a good idea, after us asking for it for years? Fuck-you, Obama!"

Fox News, "Someone renew Kelly's contract... NOW! Oh, we're live? Eeerrrmmm... is anyone here slightly insane and named Sean?"

Breitbart, "The hidden secret behind the Comet Ping Pong renovation contracts - maybe not Jews"

Facebook news feeds, "The hidden secret of the Comet Ping Pong pedophile space renovations revealed by secret emails- totally Jews"
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby iMURDAu » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:34 pm

DashaBlade wrote:
iMURDAu wrote:Yes because all child traffickers are clever enough to use a kids pizza place as a front organization.


And it all happens in their non-existent basement, too. Don't forget that.


I thought that was obvious so I didn't want to seem redundant by mentioning it.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby mancityfooty » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:56 am

I've asked for proof on this at a website.
They just linked me to wikileaks, which is about as honest as pinochio with a 12' long nose.
I trust them as far as I can throw them with two broken arms.
I brought up the snopes page on it.
No, no, they don't trust snopes.
But they then sent me a link to the snopes page about the death of the woman in haiti who was there to investigate child trafficking that rated it as not sure.
And by "they", I mean a couple of people.
I asked for proof as to why they believe this is true, and got nothing but stupidity back.
This is as dumb as the sandy hook truthers. As dumb as those who believe 9/11 was an inside job. These are the people who believe in chemtrails and how they put windows on microwaves so they'll cook your brains while you're watching your cheese melt.
Children are an obvious selling point because the idea of what they're claiming is such an atrocity. The same thing happened with the satanic cult daycares in the '80s.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby NathanLoiselle » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:26 am

Hey. You'll rue the day when my satanic cult daycare finally raises Beelzebub and causes hell on earth.



Although, no one may really notice what with things being things as of late.
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Re: Guy fires gun in pizza shop because "pizzagate"

Postby El Saico » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:15 am

This whole thing is an exercise in IMAX-level projection.

Seems like, on some corners of the Internet, "cheese pizza" is slang for... something else with the initials CP. Yeah.
Hence how these guys managed to jump to that conclusion.
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