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Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever.

Postby 52xMax » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:51 am

As in, the whole country, for as long as there had been an armed police (I'm assuming they're talking about the modern era, but it's still impressive), the policemen who shot the man down said they had no choice since he was resisting arrest and used a shotgun against them.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/12/02/icelandic_shooting_police_say_they_shot_and_killed_someone_for_the_first.html

Let that sink in for a minute.
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby LaoWai » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:43 am

See, violence really is increasing everywhere. I blame the video games like Grand Theft Auto: Reykjavik squarely for this--that and the violent music the kids are listening to these days, like, um, Bjork?
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby Edgar Cabrera » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:42 am

Well, Björk certainly drives me crazy.

But returning to the topic, the way they put it, it seemed like they didn't have other choice.
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby Bert » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:35 pm

Am I the only one who read that headline and thought "Well, of course it was his first time being shot dead. By definition you don't survive the first time."

*facepalm*
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby JamesT » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:03 pm

The first thing that caught my eye about the article? The person writing about this tragic death is named J. Voorhees. Sure, it SAYS Josh, but I assume Jason is just bad at picking pseudonyms.

It's the perfect setup to a spinoff: Jason Voorhees, getting too old to cause death and mayhem, decides to take a job as a reporter who writes about death and mayhem! I'm thinking romcom, with a love interest who constantly misunderstands Jason when he talks about working at a camp and getting teens to "open up."
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby AboveGL » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:55 pm

JamesT wrote:The first thing that caught my eye about the article? The person writing about this tragic death is named J. Voorhees. Sure, it SAYS Josh, but I assume Jason is just bad at picking pseudonyms.

It's the perfect setup to a spinoff: Jason Voorhees, getting too old to cause death and mayhem, decides to take a job as a reporter who writes about death and mayhem! I'm thinking romcom, with a love interest who constantly misunderstands Jason when he talks about working at a camp and getting teens to "open up."


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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby Edgar Cabrera » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:42 pm

JamesT wrote:The first thing that caught my eye about the article? The person writing about this tragic death is named J. Voorhees. Sure, it SAYS Josh, but I assume Jason is just bad at picking pseudonyms.

It's the perfect setup to a spinoff: Jason Voorhees, getting too old to cause death and mayhem, decides to take a job as a reporter who writes about death and mayhem! I'm thinking romcom, with a love interest who constantly misunderstands Jason when he talks about working at a camp and getting teens to "open up."

*goes to look up article again*

Oh SHIT!
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby D-LOGAN » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:39 pm

Bertman wrote:Am I the only one who read that headline and thought "Well, of course it was his first time being shot dead. By definition you don't survive the first time."


Oh my God, I can't believe I missed that but yeah! It's like a neighbour saying "It's just so unlike him, he's never been shot to death before .... well except for that one time a few years back, but other than that never!"
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby Deathclaw_Puncher » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:18 am

Maybe Iceland has a Punisher-style interrogation policy where they shoot people dead prior to questioning.
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby iMURDAu » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:30 am

Well. If I ever get to visit Iceland I'll be wary of those who are approaching their sixth decade. And if I make friends with a local I've gotta remember not to go with them to visit their meemaw because I'm not trying to wade through some elbow high gangsta shit on vacation. Or ever for that matter.
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby blehblah » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:58 pm

The vikings really learned to chillax over the last handful of centuries. Multi-generational therapy? Being stuck in an unforgiving environment where you either work with all your neighbors (eeek - sounds like socialism!) or die a miserable death? The book Collapse (Jared Diamond, the dude who also wrote Guns Germs and Steel) makes some interesting points about Iceland.

I've never been there, though I've met a few folks from there in other Nordic countries that I've been to. In general, that entire region has a rather different mentality than we in Canada about many things; taxes, social services, education, policing, on and on. Canada has always been a little Euro and (especially lately) a little more American, I'd like to see Canada internalize lessons-learned in Nordic countries.

In some ways, it comes down to viewing your country as a collection of individuals, or as a group (society, social... it's like hints are being dropped... nah). Whenever someone proposes socially progressive policy, let's say cheap or even free (with strings attached) higher education, folks react with horror if it will take $100 out of their pocket every year. Short-term, individualistic benefits trumps long-term, group benefits. We're a bunch of selfish thugs, is what I'm saying. The downward spiral ensues when a less-educated and individualistic society doesn't care to, or is able to, understand long-term social policies. They're too wrapped-up in defending their compound against their countrymen, collecting as much everything-and-anything as possible, or more likely bemoaning their own lot in life (since our systems are producing an ever-growing gap between have's hand have-not's).

In a case like this, our politicians would be prone to say, "What if he was your neighbor - this is why you need a gun, higher fences, militarized police with sweeping powers to abuse body and privacy, bigger jails, mandatory minimum sentences, etc., etc.". Not, "Gee, this is terrible; what can we do to help a person like this before they do something like this; is there a better way to deal with someone like this if it happens again ("better" meaning, not kill him), etc., etc.".

It's sad to see guys like Rob Ford and our PM, Stephen Harper, maintain base support levels no matter what they do. Yes, two very disparate examples, but cut from the same clothe. They tell people that they are good for them (translation, save individuals money) whether that's true or not. They both reject science, facts, analysis, and other tools of policy-making in favor of blind adherence to ideologies (that all of the those things show they are, in-fact, not actually following anyway!). It's 'stop-hitting-yourself' thuggery that works (as-in, getting re-elected). The mentality of, "If he puts $5 in my pocket and screws everyone but me, I don't care how he does it, what he does otherwise, or really, about anything else".

Ugh, now I've gone and got myself all depressed.

*yells out the home-office door* "KIDS, decide what do you like better, Bjork, ABBA, Danishes, cross-country skiing, or practicing to snipe Russians while cross-country-skiing; pack-up your room, we're going on a long trip!"
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Re: Police in Iceland shoot man dead for the first time ever

Postby Learned Nand » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:16 pm

I've often advocated a more Nordic (or at least traditional Canadian) economic model for America, but I don't think it's just a difference in attitudes about prioritization of the individual over the collective. Nordic model countries tend to have strong indicators not just indicating overall collective wellbeing, but individual as well. The problem is that Americans (and probably people in other countries) are totally politically uneducated. Maybe 5% of Americans have even rudimentary knowledge about the state fo the economy, so they're incapable of making rational economic decisions. It's not just that Americans make rational economic decisions with different priorities.
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