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Re: The Death Of Memes

Postby cmsellers » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:15 pm

Deathclaw_Puncher wrote:Memes are safe,there's a fair use clause!

Memes are not, and have never been, fair use. They're just copyright infringement no one cares about enforcing.
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Re: The Death Of Memes

Postby iMURDAu » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:55 pm

Deathclaw_Puncher wrote:Memes are safe,there's a fair use clause!


I'm pretty sure you just said

"EVERYTHING IS MEMES"

so now people can totally use whatever because they didn't define meme.
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Re: The Death Of Memes

Postby RatElemental » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:18 pm

cmsellers wrote:
Deathclaw_Puncher wrote:Memes are safe,there's a fair use clause!

Memes are not, and have never been, fair use. They're just copyright infringement no one cares about enforcing.

There are at least some memes that are transformative enough to count as fair use, but there are definitely a ton that aren't.
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Re: The Death Of Memes

Postby Marcuse » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:28 pm

Even if memes are deemed as fair use, it won't stop near blind automated content ID systems from proliferating. This is basically legislating to require them from large tech and they're not going to hire hundreds of people to curate content to check for infringing content.
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Re: The Death Of Memes

Postby Kate » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:27 pm

It's not just Europeans who should worry about the blind automated system. YouTube, for example, already has problems with that where content creators get caught up and demonetized even when they are careful to follow all of the rules and their work is clearly fair use. They either need to not operate in Europe or get even stricter, which is going to be a problem for everyone on the platform.

And I am genuinely curious about the incentive behind not allowing platforms to show snippets of news articles without seeking a license. I am much more likely to go to the site and read the full article if I see a preview of it rather than a headline alone or link. Does that apply to blogs too or can Facebook show previews of AlexJonesIsMyHero dot com screeds for free but required to get licenses from BBC, CNN, etc? Or could they seek a license from, say, Fox news and not bother getting one from anyone else such that only Fox news articles get previews? Can someone who understands this better help me understand it please?
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Re: The Death Of Memes

Postby Windy » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:13 am

laughs in American
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Re: The Death Of Memes

Postby cmsellers » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:21 pm

Windy wrote:laughs in American

If you think that most companies won't try to meet the European standards and enforce them worldwide, I'd ask you this: how many privacy policy updates did you get in the wake of the GDPR?
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Re: The Death Of Memes

Postby Deathclaw_Puncher » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:01 pm

Kate wrote:It's not just Europeans who should worry about the blind automated system. YouTube, for example, already has problems with that where content creators get caught up and demonetized even when they are careful to follow all of the rules and their work is clearly fair use. They either need to not operate in Europe or get even stricter, which is going to be a problem for everyone on the platform.

They're getting even more ridiculous in their policy now that a video with swearing in its first few minutes risks demonetization.
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Re: The Death Of Memes

Postby Krashlia » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:41 pm

Deathclaw_Puncher wrote:
Kate wrote:It's not just Europeans who should worry about the blind automated system. YouTube, for example, already has problems with that where content creators get caught up and demonetized even when they are careful to follow all of the rules and their work is clearly fair use. They either need to not operate in Europe or get even stricter, which is going to be a problem for everyone on the platform.

Their getting even more ridiculous in their policy now that a video with swearing in its first few minutes risks demonetization.


Hurr durr, we're gonna fight pedos by removing comments from vidya with kiddies in it! Yup, that'll stop them there pedos from that pedoing!

I'm losing respect for society left and right.
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