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Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby Cobra-D » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:35 pm

As everyone knows a few weeks ago trump announced a set of tariffs on steel and aluminum coming from other countries including allies(he did exclude some like Canada and Mexico however). Obviously China or Chyna as the cool kids call it werentnhappy about this and included their own tariffs on Monday effecting pork fruit and nuts(heh), which in turn had us come out with a proposed list of new tariffs which would effect things in robotics and aerospace. That was announced yesterday and today it was announced that Chyna would add new tarriffs on 106 goods from the US including cars, soy, and whiskey.

Oh and and the DOW plunge by 500 points.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby KleinerKiller » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:08 pm

Four.

Dimensional.

Chess.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby NathanLoiselle » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:12 pm

I say we just clone the Chinese and use them as slave labor. That'll show those non-cloned Chinese!

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Buy from Canada, I say. Show those Chinese bastards, I say.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby Doodle Dee. Snickers » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:16 am

I should point out this isn't a full-blown trade war yet. This is more like the timid opening move of hanging that pawn out there to start with to hopefully work a rook out of the back line. This can get far worse, and that the stock market has only ticked down instead of started to really freak out tells me that this is just a mutual shot across the bow rather than the first blows.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby JamishT » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:18 am

The only positive thing about this whole dumbness is that it makes NPR reporters and hosts constantly say "tit" (as in "tit for tat").
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby Doodle Dee. Snickers » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:13 am

JamishT wrote:The only positive thing about this whole dumbness is that it makes NPR reporters and hosts constantly say "tit" (as in "tit for tat").


Real talk, this is off-topic, but my favorite bit about NPR was in Parks and Rec (though they don't call it NPR, it's clearly meant to be NPR) when they're getting interviewed by a host who's like "I'm filling in for Bob, who's currently in New York filling in for me".

Don't know why, that just seemed a very apt presentation of NPR.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby Crimson847 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:10 am

Doodle Dee. Snickers wrote:I should point out this isn't a full-blown trade war yet. This is more like the timid opening move of hanging that pawn out there to start with to hopefully work a rook out of the back line. This can get far worse, and that the stock market has only ticked down instead of started to really freak out tells me that this is just a mutual shot across the bow rather than the first blows.


I dunno about that analogy, man. Pawn gambits are the first moves of a larger war (the chess game as a whole), not mere shots across the bow.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby Deathclaw_Puncher » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:17 am

It's more like a go game, with Trump only placing dame.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby Cobra-D » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:16 am

Trump today called for the consideration of 100 billion more in tariffs in response to the “unfair retaliation” by the Chinese. I mean like who gave them the right to retaliate against us? This is Murcia bitches!!!!!!!!!!!

It’s important to keep in mind Is that a trade war is more or less a battle of endurance, who can hurt the longest and unfortunately seeing how China is a dictatorship who aren’t really beholden to the people, they can last a lot longer than us.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby Krashlia » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:26 am

Well, of all the wars he could've dragged us into, you gotta admit that it isn't as bad as the expected alternative.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby blehblah » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:30 pm

Trump ups the ante.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-t ... -1.4607420

U.S. President Donald Trump instructed the U.S. trade representative to consider slapping an additional $100 billion US in tariffs on Chinese goods on Thursday in a dramatic escalation of the trade dispute between the two countries.

Trump's surprise move came a day after Beijing announced plans to tax $50 billion in American products, including soybeans and small aircraft, in response to a U.S. move this week to slap tariffs on $50 billion in Chinese imports.


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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby Krashlia » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:07 pm

blehblah wrote:Trump up's the ante.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-t ... -1.4607420

U.S. President Donald Trump instructed the U.S. trade representative to consider slapping an additional $100 billion US in tariffs on Chinese goods on Thursday in a dramatic escalation of the trade dispute between the two countries.

Trump's surprise move came a day after Beijing announced plans to tax $50 billion in American products, including soybeans and small aircraft, in response to a U.S. move this week to slap tariffs on $50 billion in Chinese imports.


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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby NathanLoiselle » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:19 pm

Well, don't plan on buying headphones soon.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby blehblah » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:52 pm

NathanLoiselle wrote:Well, don't plan on buying headphones soon.


I was joking with a friend the other day about how it would be hilarious if China slapped an export tariff on consumer electronics.

The $50 beellion in proposed tariffs on the US side work hard to avoid impacting consumers, at least directly (say, an import tariff on i-gadgets, etc.). The proposed tariffs which China clapped-back with - within eleven hours, because somebody did their homework ahead of time - are targeted at swing states and Trump strongholds. That's because Trump, ostensibly of the GOP, needs to not lose the house in the mid-terms, or at least not do much more to lose the house in the mid-terms. Closer to Trump's thinking, he doesn't want the price of Chinese-made stuff to increase in the rust belt as he heads into 2020.

Eh, in the end, it's all theoretical. China doesn't have to worry about the short-to-mid term popular vote. While an economist might view China as the one with more to lose, common sense says they can hunker-down and take their lumps, kinda like Russia. After the dust settles, the same folks who run the show in China today will still be there. Not so much on the American side...

So far, it's a game of chicken.
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Re: Begun, the trade wars have.

Postby NathanLoiselle » Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:58 am

I kinda said that more because all headphone parts come from Asia, with China being the primary source. There is only one headphone manufacturer in the US and they only do final assembly.
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