Tesseracts wrote:Logan, I bet my life on the following statement. Your impression is incorrect. American culture is highly patriotic and reveres authority figures such as the police.
As I say, I can only judge from the pop-culture and media I've been exposed to from observing Americana from afar, but when it comes to the police, THAT IS NOT, the impression I get. I get that they are racist, they are gun happy, they are inept, they are corrupt, they are to be feared ... and there a few good ones.
Again, that's just the impression I get. It may not be like that in actual flesh and blood real life over there. But that's something I can't experience, cause I've never been there. But I can honesty say that's the view that is imported over here at least, and is the general feel us lot now have about how both your cops are and how your people think of them.
Of course that could just be how things go, negative stuff is more noticeable and travels farther than positive, so indeed it could be skewed. But here's the thing, I do get a very positive vibe about your countries feelings towards it's soldiers. So I'm left wondering why that's not the same? See what I mean?
Before BLM it was forbidden to say you don’t like the police.
Well as I say I've been consuming American media since I was a kid, and I was seeing riling against the police in America loooooooooooong before BLM came along.
Even now you can pretty much only criticize the police for being racist, people don’t want to hear anything about the deeper issues.
I've seen uproar against police for stuff that wasn't race related though.
The police are almost always believed over citizens and corruption is often overlooked.
And yet I've seen protests and riots or supposed incidents of brutaity, that turned out not to be true. People essentially assuming the police were in the wrong from the get-go and going from there. And I see more and more of that.
The American police kill people with alarming frequency and any attempt to protest this, no matter how benign, is looked down upon.
Isn't that just a matter of persepctive though?
Couldn't someone just as honestly say-
"any attempt to defend the cop's actions on this, is looked down upon."
I've definitely seen people being riddiculed or called apologists or worse for expressing differing viewpoints on ambiguous cases in these matters.
The police have gotten more militarized over the years because there is popular support for these policies.
Well yeah, I mean I don't wanna speak out of turn or have a go at your police force ... but I do think the militaization of your cops is a bad thing. I WATCHED THE WIRE!
I'm just telling you right now, the majority of what I see coming from your country about your police force is negative. I mean in fiction there's noble cops portrayed and whatnot, it's not like I think you're a nation of cop-haters or anyhthing. And it aint like the cops over here don't get that a lot. As I say, I'm just sayin' that I'm just sayin'.
I’m afraid this thread is getting off topic. I might open a thread in one of our meta forums on this subject because I’m curious what posts exactly have accused the police of being bad people. However pointing out specific posts carries the risk of attacking specific users, which I would like to try very hard to avoid.
Yeah, lets leave that where it is. No good ever comes from that.
Not just yet, I'm still tender from before.