8values: Yet another political spectrum test

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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby Tesseracts » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:10 am

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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby Askias » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:50 am

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Something I notice in a lot of these tests is the defintions of ‘authoritarian’ versus ‘liberty’. They tend to define ‘authority’ as how much you want to ban, while I think that’s a lousy metric. I score pretty high on the liberty scale because on the common subjects they ask about - drugs and prostitution in this case- I’m a pretty live-and-let-live person. But while I hold liberal views, I think of myself as authoritarian: I default strongly towards increased (centralized) government power, consider following the law a moral imperative in and of itself besides whatever morals the law in question serves, and would in extremis likely chose a more stable dictatorship over a more volatile but freer state. Libertarian, I am certainly not. I can’t see beneath the hood of this test but I don’t think my views on drug legalisation and my hestitation to condone violence even against oppression should be considered for the same axis.

The rest is expected. Not sure why the diplomatic axis is called ‘peaceful’, since I did expres that I believe war can be required (a higher score gets ‘internationalist’, which I think is a much better term). I’m also still not fond of framing it as ‘nation vs the world’, as some questions did. I certainly favor international coöperation and accountability, but do not mistake that for not thinking my nation has its stuff together better than the vast majority of the planet.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby Grimstone » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:08 am

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Note: I didn't choose to 'strongly' agree or disagree with any of the statements because they were all so vague.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby Crimson847 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:32 am

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Not very happy with the test. One, it seems to rely way too much on questionable inferences (e.g. if you think something is good or important, the test seems to presume that you therefore want it imposed by force of law). Two, a lot of the statements are grossly overbroad, like "military spending is a waste"--I think our current level of military spending is excessive, but that doesn't mean I think military spending is a waste in general, so I put "neutral/unsure" on that one even though I'm not at all neutral on the wisdom of our present military spending levels. Three, there's too many vague code words like "family values" rather than specific descriptions.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby JamishT » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:01 am

This is going to shock and awe y'all who know me somewhat:

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If you stand in the middle of the road, you're much less likely to get run over. ;)

I'm not sure how a 60/40 split (the Diplomatic Axis) is "balanced" though.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby tinyrick » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:23 pm

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I think the most surprising result for mine is the economic axis. I'd actually consider myself a little more pro-market than the test suggests by about 10 points, but as someone else suggested, these tests use America as a baseline where all it takes to be a full-blown commie these days is believing there should be some regulation, like not dumping chemicals in the river. (Ironically, the people concerned about chemicals turning frogs gay vote for the party that rolls back the regulations keeping you from dumping chemicals into rivers that turn the frogs gay.)

The diplomatic axis is about where I expect it to be. I believe in working with other nations to solve global problems, but one of the questions asked if I believe all cultures are equal. I don't believe in racial superiority, of course, but I think that a culture can be superior. I certainly don't think America is the most superior culture in the world, but I'm pretty sure we're better than Saudi Arabia. Even intra-country I can definitely say that Massachusetts is a better place to live than Mississippi.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby 52xMax » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:02 am

I know some of you might have been curious about my results, and to be honest I was a tad curious myself, so here they are:

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More or less what I expected. The margin of error is due to answering neutral on a few questions I didn't feel were properly worded (or like many have pointed out, too focused on American politics). All in all I didn't think it was a bad test, but I wish they could go more into detail in some of these issues instead of making broad generalizations.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby Pseudoman » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:01 pm

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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby tinyrick » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:15 pm

I can't find the image now, but someone took this test and got Libertarian Communism as a result and I was like, "Ummmm....Wut?"

I believe in Democratic Despotism. We hold elections and somehow unanimously vote for the same guy every time.

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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby Piter Lauchy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:07 pm

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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby sunglasses » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:27 pm

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I'm not surprised but there were a number of questions I answered neutral to, as I didn't have a strong opinion about them.

I also find frustration with the notion that you have either authority or liberty.

Honestly, if I surprised anyone I would love to know.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby cmsellers » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:13 am

So Tess retook this test, which prompted me to retake it. Most of my results are basically the same, but I've moved 6% more towards markets and 12% more towards traditionalism, though I'm still on the same side of center in each case as when I started.

My first thought is that this might be because I'm really mad about the information I shared in my nutrition thread. There are at least two questions (is government funding of research better than private sector funding, and are traditions valuable for their own sake) where I changed my answer by at least two points explicitly because of this. However I'm pretty sure I changed my answer to the EU question even more drastically (from strong support to weak oppose) and that barely made a dent in my internationalism score (though because I was so close to the center, it did move me over the line), so I'm not sure if being angry about this changed how I answered other market and traditionalist questions, or if there are other things before this which influenced that score. Remind me to take it again in a year and see if I stay in my current positions or move back to where I started.

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Edit: I mentioned being skeptical of the EU in my OP, so I had probably already changed my views at that point.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby AsamiSato » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:15 pm

Oooh, this is fun!

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I would sum up my political views skepticism of concentrated power in any form (edit: plus social justice). It looks like I'm pretty similar to sunglasses. I also answered a lot neutral.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby Marcuse » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:56 pm

I also did it again.

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Looks like I've gotten ever so slightly more progressive, authoritarian, nationalist and a fair bit more market. I still think some of those questions suck. Like, is it right to define illegal drug use as a "victimless crime"? I'm not sure. I am apparently now a neo-liberal. I don't know how I got so traditionalist when I answered that traditions were valueless in and of themselves, and that we shouldn't uphold traditions no matter what.
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Re: 8values: Yet another political spectrum test

Postby Absentia » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:17 pm

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I ended up with Centrist on economics because the questions were so oversimplified I felt like I had to hedge everything towards the middle instead of strongly agreeing or disagreeing. I want to examine economic issues individually based on empirical evidence, not make blanket statements about whether government intervention is abstractly good or bad. I guess that's a kind of centrism?

And frankly I'm not sure where I left that last 15.5% of progressivism on the table.
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