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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby Aquila89 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:47 pm

In the upcoming Ridley Scott film All the Money in the World, Kevin Spacey played oil magnate J. Paul Getty. However, after the scandal, all of his scenes will be reshot with Christopher Plummer playing the role instead. An odd choice, given that Plummer is English and 30 years older than Spacey. Will he also replace Spacey in House of Cards?

Terry Crews filed a report to the LAPD about the time he was sexually harassed.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby tinyrick » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:59 pm

Aquila89 wrote:In the upcoming Ridley Scott film All the Money in the World, Kevin Spacey played oil magnate J. Paul Getty. However, after the scandal, all of his scenes will be reshot with Christopher Plummer playing the role instead. An odd choice, given that Plummer is English and 30 years older than Spacey. Will he also replace Spacey in House of Cards?


Probably not, but can we, as a society accept different actors playing the same roles? We can do it with James Bond and we can do it with Jack Ryan and we can do it with the Doctor. The only reason actors are protected by their fame is cause we, as a people, can't accept anyone else playing THAT role. I say FUCK IT. If I find out that Robert Downey, Jr. fucked a 14 year old girl, I'm not going to lament about how Iron Man was better with Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man. I'm just going to accept the new Iron Man.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby Aquila89 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:24 pm

tinyrick wrote: The only reason actors are protected by their fame is cause we, as a people, can't accept anyone else playing THAT role.


Is it? I mean, Spacey apparently harassed young men before he was in House of Cards. Back then, he wasn't associated with one particular role, and yet he got away with it.

As for the MCU, they already recast the Hulk and James Rhodes (though not because of sexual misconduct) so they would probably recast others too, if needed.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby sunglasses » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:18 pm

People to add to the Hollywood Shame List (TM):

1. Steven Seagal (sexual harassment and arrogant dick waving)
2. Louie CK (sexual harassment and srsly dude no one wants to see you jack it)
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby AboveGL » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:33 pm

I always thought Seagal was already well-known for being a disgusting letch as well as a bullshitter? I guess we're not reserving the shame list for those whom we've only just learned of their shittiness.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby DoglovingJim » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:57 am

sunglasses wrote:People to add to the Hollywood Shame List (TM):

1. Steven Seagal (sexual harassment and arrogant dick waving)


Soooooo thatttttt explains why George Foreman challenged him to a fight.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby tinyrick » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:32 am

AboveGL wrote:I always thought Seagal was already well-known for being a disgusting letch as well as a bullshitter? I guess we're not reserving the shame list for those whom we've only just learned of their shittiness.


Well Andy Dick was dropped from a project for sexual misconduct, and that's got to be the least shocking celebrity sexual misconduct scandal of all time.

Mariah Carey is accused of sexual harassment. Just a gentle reminder that women can do this too. Although, I can't help but have that thought, "hurr hurr wish she'd sexually harass me" that all guys have that makes it really difficult for male victims to come forward.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby DoglovingJim » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:44 am

tinyrick wrote:
AboveGL wrote:I always thought Seagal was already well-known for being a disgusting letch as well as a bullshitter? I guess we're not reserving the shame list for those whom we've only just learned of their shittiness.


Well Andy Dick was dropped from a project for sexual misconduct, and that's got to be the least shocking celebrity sexual misconduct scandal of all time.

Mariah Carey is accused of sexual harassment. Just a gentle reminder that women can do this too. Although, I can't help but have that thought, "hurr hurr wish she'd sexually harass me" that all guys have that makes it really difficult for male victims to come forward.


Hopefully more male victims come forward, the fact that male sexual harassment can still be joked about (eg, that film horrible bosses) while sexual harassment to women would get you lynched is something which annoys me and that I hope is at least addressed as an actual problem.

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There's more to it Since there was not only sexual harassment but it sounds like allegedly she was also being racist, declaring them Nazi's/KKK members and presumably saying she wanted to be surrounded by black guys and not white (in which case why the hell didn't she just hire a black only security company?). And also screwed them over $200,000 which is a hell of a lot of money (not for her though since she is loaded).

But I guess that's a topic for another thread since this is for sexual harassment right?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby reallifegirl » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:54 am

Well, fuck.

The newest celebrity to be accused is George Takei.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby tinyrick » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:06 am

reallifegirl wrote:Well, fuck.

The newest celebrity to be accused is George Takei.


Godammit! Ok. *prays to God* Please not Tom Hanks. Please not Keanu Reeves. Please not Ryan Reynolds.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby iMURDAu » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:37 am

2017: The Year Fandom Died

I said it in the Louis CK thread. I'm not a fan of anyone anymore. Maybe not of anything. I mean yeah that thing you enjoy so much is great now but once we all find out the dark truth, ick. Ugh.
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby Aquila89 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:52 am

reallifegirl wrote:Well, fuck.

The newest celebrity to be accused is George Takei.


He kind of admitted it already a month ago on Howard Stern.

iMURDAu wrote:I said it in the Louis CK thread. I'm not a fan of anyone anymore. Maybe not of anything. I mean yeah that thing you enjoy so much is great now but once we all find out the dark truth, ick. Ugh.


What about women? No woman was accused so far. Can I be a fan of actresses?
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Re: Harvey Weinstein and Victim Blaming

Postby A Combustible Lemon » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:47 pm

Mariah Carey, two posts above you.

Also, thankfully George Takei has long ago decided to live life as a Gay man, so it's OK.
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