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Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby sunglasses » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:55 pm

Well, this feels straight out of Kill Bill but it's real life.

A woman who is in a persistent vegetative state in an Arizona care facility gave birth. She's not just recently been in a PVS, no, she has been for years. Which means a male caregiver is responsible for this act. Or a male visitor. Or a female staff member/visitor with a turkey baster.

Staff there didn't even realize she was pregnant until she went into labor. At her age, 29, a sudden lapse in menses should have been investigated. The fact that it apparently wasn't and no one realized that her periods had stopped and she was pregnant frustrates me. The only way I can find some solace in this is if she had a history of irregular periods. Even still, it frustrates me.

The police have gotten bucal swabs of male employees and those who've refused the DNA tests they have gotten court orders to obtain them. For obvious reasons. Because she is a sexual assault victim.

Oh, and she's a member of the San Carlos Apache Tribe.

From what I can gather, the baby is still in the hospital as it was in medical distress upon birth which isn't surprising since she had no prenatal care. However, the family said it is a baby boy and that he's been born into a loving family and being well cared for.

So, how this did happen? Well, a person in PVS still has a functional body. Sadly, this isn't the first time something like this has happened in a care facility. It's why I'm cautious to even hug residents for fear of it being misconstrued.

I cannot stress enough how frustrated I am that no one appeared to notice that she was pregnant on top of the rape that occurred.
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby Ladki96 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:06 pm

Oh my god, what is this, a real life Sleeping Beauty tale? O.o Poor woman. Hope they catch the culprit soon
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby jbobsully11 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:40 pm

I heard about this earlier today. I just... can’t even.
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby Bromo » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:59 am

Imagine being the child and one day learning that your mother was in a coma the whole time. That's completely heartbreaking.
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby jbobsully11 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:29 pm

Supposedly, she isn’t in a vegetative state, but she is “significantly cognitively disabled” as a result of childhood seizures. So... yeah. Still horrifying.
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby SandTea » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:58 am

They arrested the alleged rapist. He had worked there since 2011. That's terrifying.

A 36-year-old nurse has been arrested on suspicion of impregnating a woman in a vegetative state who unexpectedly gave birth last month at a Phoenix health care facility, police said Wednesday...

...A court order compelled Sutherland to provide a DNA sample to investigators on Tuesday, and crime lab technicians determined his DNA "matched the baby," Phoenix police Sgt. Tommy Thompson said. Sutherland was arrested on Tuesday.


Also, a second female patient has since come forward to claim that two staffers had abused her.
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby Kivutar » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:41 am

jbobsully11 wrote:Supposedly, she isn’t in a vegetative state, but she is “significantly cognitively disabled” as a result of childhood seizures. So... yeah. Still horrifying.


That's worse :(
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby Anglerphobe » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:06 pm

The really fucked up thing about this is that it isn't even hard to get laid. If you want sex and you don't much care about who it's with or how you come by it, you can get it. Whoever did this had so many other options and still they went with this Kill Bill, Sleeping Beauty shit.

This hits me whenever I hear of fucked up sexual shit like this. There has to be a definite, particular appeal to doing these things because if all you wanted was to get laid, you could. That's the part that always sticks with me, the real fridge horror of these stories.
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby iMURDAu » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:33 pm

They've charged an employee.

His lawyer spun it as:

“There’s no direct evidence that Mr. Sutherland has committed these acts. I know at this point there’s DNA. But he will have a right to his own DNA expert.”


All the indirect ways that incapacitated people can get pregnant right?
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby CarrieVS » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:41 pm

iMURDAu wrote:They've charged an employee.

His lawyer spun it as:

“There’s no direct evidence that Mr. Sutherland has committed these acts. I know at this point there’s DNA. But he will have a right to his own DNA expert.”


All the indirect ways that incapacitated people can get pregnant right?


I guess at this stage we don't know for sure he doesn't have an evil clone*.


*identical twin
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby NathanLoiselle » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:11 pm

Hey. If a woman wants to get pregnant then they'll find a way. Am I right guys?
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby JamishT » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:25 am

iMURDAu wrote:They've charged an employee.

His lawyer spun it as:

“There’s no direct evidence that Mr. Sutherland has committed these acts. I know at this point there’s DNA. But he will have a right to his own DNA expert.”


All the indirect ways that incapacitated people can get pregnant right?


Defense lawyers gonna defend, yo, especially if their client pleads not guilty (not that I've taken the time to find out how this dude has pled).
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby iMURDAu » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:46 pm

I don't envy the lawyer who ends up having to defend someone accused of that. Can't be fun.

The clone/twin angle is a good one. I'd start there.
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby Ladki96 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:42 am

{{{Sellers}}} Wrong topic, yo :P Unless Nixon is behind this dastardly deed as well
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Re: Woman in vegetative state gave birth

Postby Krashlia » Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:51 am

NathanLoiselle wrote:Hey. If a woman wants to get pregnant then they'll find a way. Am I right guys?


My click says :lol:
But my conscience... my conscience says no.
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