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Postby DamianaRaven » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:54 am

So, I'm not terribly clear on the whole name-calling policy. So long as it's someone we all know and they aren't here to defend themselves, whore-bashing and slut-shaming are (apparently) A-OK. On the other hand, I've been modded (with the utmost courtesy, because Englishmen don't know how else to behave) for referring to Avi as a "tedious pain in the ass." (Y'all've all met Aviel, yes? He's the [redacted] often seen patrolling the Current Events arena.) Another example would be that Pov knows he's a pompous prick and has made peace with that reality. Does this mean that none of us can talk about his prickish pomposity?

A little clarity and/or consistency is all I ask!
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby Marcuse » Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:01 am

In my view, and speaking only partially with my moderator hat on, I'd classify a personal insult as a slur directed at another user. I'm way more likely to look at moderating something in the context of an argument where an insult is directed at someone while in the process of disagreeing with them, than I am a casual reference that appears to be no more than a term of "affectionate reference".

For example:

"Well everyone knows you're a raging pants-dropper" might be okay in the context of a casual conversation with no opposition. The same comment in the context of a heated disagreement about a topic two people feel strongly about would come off like an insult. In most situations, we try to look at the context of the comment in question and try to see why it may or may not be considered an insult.

Unfortunately it's not exactly easy to define a hard and fast rule for that, but my suggestion for avoiding this would be to avoid them in debates where you're arguing against other people, because it looks like ad hominem. In a casual or non-debate discussion, if the other person is okay with it, we have no reason to look at moderating that.

I think the sticking point is that you're not using these terms with an intention of using ad hominem to win an argument, you're using them in a conversational fashion because you're familiar with the people you're talking to. The problem is that we can't judge your intentions (or anyone else's) with any degree of accuracy, nor can other users. If someone finds himself on the receiving end of an interesting appellation in the midst of debate, this can appear as an insult, and I usually feel we have to moderate that.

That's just one moderator's opinion, but I hope that helps.
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby NathanLoiselle » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:11 pm

You're a raging pants-dropper? I'm a raging pants-dropper!
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby aviel » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:46 am

I think that name calling shouldn't be allowed if it is intended to be or is perceived as hostile.

If it is intended to be hostile then that should result in moderator action against the name-caller regardless of perception.

If it is perceived to be hostile but not intended, then that should not result in moderator action except (depending on the circumstances) the removal of the insult. However, if a user establishes a pattern of unintentionally hostile name-calling, then moderators should require that user not to name-call regardless of intent.
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby DamianaRaven » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:21 am

May I ask, for the official record, how you feel/felt about my referring to you as a tedious pain in the ass? Obviously, my intent was quite the opposite of hostile, but intent is only part of the equation. If I were to call you such with affection and hurt your feelings, I should be expected to either quietly delete the offending words or else negate them with an apology and infinite quantities of off-the-fuck-knocking.
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby NathanLoiselle » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:42 am

When you say off-the-puck-knocking, why do I think of deep throated blowjobs? No offense but that's what I heard.
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby DamianaRaven » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:44 am

NathanLoiselle wrote:When you say off-the-puck-knocking, why do I think of deep throated blowjobs?


Maybe you need to get laid? ;)
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby Tesseracts » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:57 am

What IS off the fuck knocking?
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby DamianaRaven » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:01 am

It's like when I reconfigure shutting the fuck up to read up-the-fuck-shutting. Off-the-fuck-knocking basically means knocking it the fuck off. In short... just me being weird.
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby CarrieVS » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:32 am

I understood it, Damiana. Though it did make me giggle a bit.
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby iMURDAu » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:12 pm

NathanLoiselle wrote:When you say off-the-puck-knocking, why do I think of deep throated blowjobs? No offense but that's what I heard.


Is it hockey season already? Everybody watches the puck but plenty of scoring chances are created off-the-puck.... however they haven't gotten around to televising these blowjobs you mention. That could be the ratings boost the NHL needs.
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby aviel » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:59 pm

DamianaRaven wrote:May I ask, for the official record, how you feel/felt about my referring to you as a tedious pain in the ass?

I don't recall this, but I would not have perceived it as hostile, so as neither the intent nor the perception of the insult was as hostile, there is no problem.
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby sunglasses » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:53 pm

aviel wrote:
DamianaRaven wrote:May I ask, for the official record, how you feel/felt about my referring to you as a tedious pain in the ass?

I don't recall this, but I would not have perceived it as hostile, so as neither the intent nor the perception of the insult was as hostile, there is no problem.


Wait, that was an insult? I thought it was a pet name for him. Shit, I am out of the loop.

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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby LaoWai » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:37 pm

C**ks****ing****go***Kard******b***tresp*****oon*****!

Wait, maybe I should read the OP first...Nah, that ********ite's probably just ********ing on about some ******ing *****.
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Re: Soooo.... name-calling?

Postby DamianaRaven » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:39 pm

It's spelled *****, you **** ****ing thunder****
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