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Re: Minor annoyances

Postby CarrieVS » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:05 am

cmsellers wrote:Doesn't Britain have a pretty decent rail system?


Yes and I would prefer it but train fares are also ridiculously expensive. I'm travelling the majority of the longest diagonal of England and over that distance it's significantly cheaper to fly.
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Re: Minor annoyances

Postby Cpt._Funkotron » Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:41 am

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cmsellers wrote:Doesn't Britain have a pretty decent rail system?


Yes and I would prefer it but train fares are also ridiculously expensive. I'm travelling the majority of the longest diagonal of England and over that distance it's significantly cheaper to fly.


That's so strange to me as an American. Over here the rail system is generally quite shitty, privatized to hell and back between various freight magnates with the passenger services having to wrangle between them for access, but quite cheap if you're transiting between major cities and don't mind it taking awhile.
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Re: Minor annoyances

Postby cmsellers » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:01 am

Cpt._Funkotron wrote:That's so strange to me as an American. Over here the rail system is generally quite shitty, privatized to hell and back between various freight magnates with the passenger services having to wrangle between them for access, but quite cheap if you're transiting between major cities and don't mind it taking awhile.

It's really not, though, at least not outside the Northeast Corridor.

As someone from near the Northeast Corridor, I frequently took advantage of trains. They were slower and considerably more expensive than driving, and I had to drive to Springfield anyways, but a lot more pleasant than driving all the way, at least if you're going to a big city where traffic and parking are issues. Even at peak times, I think they were usually somewhat cheaper than flying, however I would never dream of flying anywhere I can drive in under six hours, so I'm not sure about ticket prices for such short distances.

But the Northeast Corridor is the only part of the US where passenger rail service is generally profitable, and also the only part of the US where it's generally affordable. In fact ticket prices in the Northeast Corridor are severely inflated so the profits can be used to subsidize the rest of the country, and still relatively affordable.

I was annoyed by the inflated ticket prices in NE corridor until I looked into rail travel in Texas, and then I was really annoyed, because the subsidies still don't make passenger travel a viable option here. Not only do most trains run only two or three times a week in each direction and take about twice as long as driving over long distances and as much as four times as long over shorter distances, not only is it basically impossible to take a train from Austin to anywhere (rail travel from Austin means taking take the slow train to San Antonio and then waiting for hours or days), but if you're booking at least a month out, coach-class train tickets from San Antonio to anywhere are considerably more expensive than a coach-class plane ticket from Austin to the same destination.

Unless you're talking about jumping boxcars in which case, yes, carry on.
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Re: Minor annoyances

Postby Cpt._Funkotron » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:06 pm

cmsellers wrote:
Cpt._Funkotron wrote:That's so strange to me as an American. Over here the rail system is generally quite shitty, privatized to hell and back between various freight magnates with the passenger services having to wrangle between them for access, but quite cheap if you're transiting between major cities and don't mind it taking awhile.

It's really not, though, at least not outside the Northeast Corridor.

As someone from near the Northeast Corridor, I frequently took advantage of trains. They were slower and considerably more expensive than driving, and I had to drive to Springfield anyways, but a lot more pleasant than driving all the way, at least if you're going to a big city where traffic and parking are issues. Even at peak times, I think they were usually somewhat cheaper than flying, however I would never dream of flying anywhere I can drive in under six hours, so I'm not sure about ticket prices for such short distances.

But the Northeast Corridor is the only part of the US where passenger rail service is generally profitable, and also the only part of the US where it's generally affordable. In fact ticket prices in the Northeast Corridor are severely inflated so the profits can be used to subsidize the rest of the country, and still relatively affordable.

I was annoyed by the inflated ticket prices in NE corridor until I looked into rail travel in Texas, and then I was really annoyed, because the subsidies still don't make passenger travel a viable option here. Not only do most trains run only two or three times a week in each direction and take about twice as long as driving over long distances and as much as four times as long over shorter distances, not only is it basically impossible to take a train from Austin to anywhere (rail travel from Austin means taking take the slow train to San Antonio and then waiting for hours or days), but if you're booking at least a month out, coach-class train tickets from San Antonio to anywhere are considerably more expensive than a coach-class plane ticket from Austin to the same destination.

Unless you're talking about jumping boxcars in which case, yes, carry on.


I've mostly only used trains in the Northeast, so that's mostly defined my experience of passenger rail so far. Sorry to generalize the whole country.
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Re: Minor annoyances

Postby jbobsully11 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:53 am

As I was leaving a store before work started, a song came on the radio that I like and haven’t heard in a long time. I guess it’s not that annoying, since I can always find it on Youtube.
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Re: Minor annoyances

Postby cmsellers » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:23 am

When we went to Redwood National Park in 2003, a haunting song came on the radio. When I got back to somewhere with internet several hours later, I googled some of the lyrics. But it was 2003, there weren't hundreds of websites with the lyrics to every song, and I couldn't figure out what it was. It bothered me for another five years, until about half a decade later, when I started listening to music on my own and it occurred to me that I might be able to find the song now, and then listen to it on YouTube.

Sure enough, I did, and ... me not being a teenager hearing it in a cathedral of redwoods, it wasn't quite as haunting as I remembered.

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Re: Minor annoyances

Postby Pedgerow » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:47 pm

jbobsully11 wrote:As I was leaving a store before work started, a song came on the radio that I like and haven’t heard in a long time. I guess it’s not that annoying, since I can always find it on Youtube.


It won't be the same. It's never the same. There's something about someone else wanting to play the music you like that just makes the experience infinitely better than if you just listen to it by yourself, alone. I discovered a song on the greatest website in the world for people who like foreign music, and I love it now. But even through a direct and deliberate recommendation like this, I bet you won't like it as much! You might even question my sanity for feeling so positively about two white Belgians releasing a reggae song in the 1980s!



That's a real minor annoyance, that good music sounds so much better when it's someone else playing it. Another minor annoyance is when a song you like isn't the original version, and you have to choose which you prefer. Everyone knows originals are usually best, but if you hear the second version first, then that's the original to you, right?

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Re: Minor annoyances

Postby jbobsully11 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:09 pm

Pedgerow wrote:
jbobsully11 wrote:As I was leaving a store before work started, a song came on the radio that I like and haven’t heard in a long time. I guess it’s not that annoying, since I can always find it on Youtube.


It won't be the same. It's never the same. There's something about someone else wanting to play the music you like that just makes the experience infinitely better than if you just listen to it by yourself, alone.

The unexpectedness and “I forgot how much I like this song” does make it better, but not by much, to me. But yes, I agree with what you wrote about hearing remakes before originals. I tend to like whichever version of a song I heard first, but not always.
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