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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby JamishT » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:33 pm

I have that Sarahahahaha thing and no one has roasted me on it. I'm pretty disappointed that my friends are so nice.

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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby satan_n_stuff » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:22 pm

cmsellers wrote:
IamNotCreepy wrote:I find it very weird for grown men to be obsessed with Disney.

I feel basically the same way with adults and Pokemon.

When you're a kid it makes sense that you should be able to name all the animals that exist, and also that they should have some sort of magical powers. As an adult, it seems like a poor substitute for the wonder of nature.

Of course I never liked Pokemon as a kid, but as a kid I was into mythical creatures like wyverns and cockatrices, and making my own such creatures. (My favorite in elementary school was a flying dolphin, in middle school it was basically a bird crossed with a snake and a crocodile.) But as an adult? Not so much, especially not when I realize how many weird real animals there are out there.

As someone who can visually identify any of the hundreds of mechs in MWO, gauge their effectiveness and spot likely weaknesses at a glance it doesn't seem that weird to me. I think giant stompy robots are more fun but that is just personal taste.
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby Malfeasinator » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:42 pm

I'm more of a live and let live kind of person when it comes to interests and hobbies.

I'm 36, almost 37. I still watch cartoons. I still play video games. Those two things alone make older people in my family think there is something seriously wrong with me.

But... also... I'm into computers! *gasp* That must mean I'm an uber-nerd that will die a virgin. No woman would ever be caught dead around such a dweeb as myself.

I got yelled at for wanting to buy comics when I was 12. It was time to grow up and get with the program.

My grandma sold a lot of my things that would do quite nicely on eBay right now, for a grand total of like 30 bucks at a yard sale.

I was discouraged from playing Magic: the Gathering when it came out, but a friend of mine paid for his way through college with his Black Lotuses.

So I don't know, I guess I figure maybe it's none of my business what other people like, as long as they're not hurting anybody.
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby Anglerphobe » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:12 pm

That doesn't preclude having an opinion on it, though.

As an example, and a new post in its own right, I think abdominal crunches are basically pointless. I'm not going to stop anyone, but I do think they're wasting their time.
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby JamishT » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:59 am

Anglerphobe wrote:As an example, and a new post in its own right, I think abdominal crunches are basically pointless. I'm not going to stop anyone, but I do think they're wasting their time.


If you're up for it, I'd like an explanation. I don't know all that much about exercise and stuff, so I don't know if I've been misled horribly.
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby Grimstone » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:28 am

I want to say it's bc abs are more of a supporting muscle in a compound movement so they should get adequate exercise alongside other muscle groups anyway if you're doing things properly(and abs for show have more to do with low body fat% than strength).
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby Anglerphobe » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:44 pm

Grim pretty much got it, but I would add that I think there are far better specific abdominal exercises too, largely for the same reason that he mentioned. Crunches don't really add anything that you aren't already doing in some other way, if you're a normal able bodied person.
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby Lindvaettr » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:32 pm

Grimstone wrote:I want to say it's bc abs are more of a supporting muscle in a compound movement so they should get adequate exercise alongside other muscle groups anyway if you're doing things properly(and abs for show have more to do with low body fat% than strength).


Crunches are a crap exercise, but honestly, unless you're really going all-out with compound exercises, like a body-building doing humongous deadlifts for days, abs can definitely stand some work on their own.

When it comes to low body fat % for abs, in my experience it's more that one is required, but the other is really helpful. You can't really have abs above 10-12% body fat (unless you really have monster abs), but if you just count on being skinny to have abs, your abs won't necessarily be well-defined. The outlines will be there, but you'll never get the nice puffy squares that makes abs really pop if you just count on being skinny. Like any muscle, you can get definition by being skinny, but size matters too.

Anyway, if you're all looking for some good ab exercises, reverse crunches and exercise ball crunches are great, especially used in conjunction (it's easier in my experience to target the middle and upper abs with reverse crunches, and the middle and low abs with exercise ball crunches). Add a dumbbell or kettlebell to the exercise ball crunches, and some ankle weights to the reverse crunches, and you can get a lot of mileage.

If you really you feel like your ego is a little too big and you want to deflate it a bit, or you really want to kill your abs, Dragon Flags are both ridiculously difficult, and awesome for your abs even if you can't get them in proper form. I still can't even do one without at least raising my legs half a foot above the line of my torso going up, but I think I might manage a full proper-form dragon flag sometime in the next month. They're a great time, and so intense that they make for a short ab workout.
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby Anglerphobe » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:56 pm

Dragon flags are absurd. If you're a big guy you would need a Herculean core to pull it off. I can vouch for Lind's other suggestions but I have never attempted that, weighing as I do almost double what Bruce Lee did. To add another suggestion, I also do a lot of dynamic gymnastics style abdominal work like hollow rocks for martial arts purposes.
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby sunglasses » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:05 pm

Anglerphobe wrote: hollow rocks


I hate this exercise it is a painful nightmare and I will spit upon it in hell.

Which means it really works.
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby Lindvaettr » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:15 pm

Come to think of it, I don't know that I've done hollow rocks before. Ab day is either tomorrow or Thursday. I'll give 'em a shot and report back.
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby D-LOGAN » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:16 pm

Anglerphobe wrote:That doesn't preclude having an opinion on it, though.

As an example, and a new post in its own right, I think abdominal crunches are basically pointless. I'm not going to stop anyone, but I do think they're wasting their time.


I misread this as 'abnormal crunches' and just assumed 'crunches' were some kind of foreign chocolate bar and 'abnormal' meant they were like 'irregular oreos' which is something I saw in an episode of the Simpsons and assume is actually a thing, therefore 'abnormal crunches' also being a thing didn't strike me as too strange a statement to question.

And while your post did kinda take your supposed dislike of an odd version of a candy treat to somewhat of an extreme, it didn't come across to me as that out of place. Sometimes people feel strongly about stuff. Maybe some people were making too big a deal of them, they are just bars after all. Or they would be if they existed.

... I am aware of the exercise crunch thing though ... not sure why that didn't come to me as the first explanation. Even with my mistake of the word 'abnormal' it really should of been the immediate thing that came to mind.

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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby DoglovingJim » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:47 am

sunglasses wrote:
Anglerphobe wrote: hollow rocks


I hate this exercise it is a painful nightmare and I will spit upon it in hell.

Which means it really works.


What are hollow rocks?
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Re: Controversial opinions you hold

Postby Anglerphobe » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:31 am

Holding the body so it's arched off the back (ie hollow) and rocking back and forth. There are other "hollow" movements and lots of variations but the basic idea remains the same. Suspend the body in an arched position and make your abdomen work.

With a quick search I found an oddly amusing gif of it

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