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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby KleinerKiller » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:29 am

SandTea wrote:I haven't read the comics so with that preface,

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Y'all like carl?! I'm sure he's much better in the novel but TV carl? No. No, no, no. He is one of the most annoying characters on the show. OK, that is my personal opinion and I admit he has gotten better with the Negan storyline but almost every other thing hes done in the show has annoyed the f outa me.

Kliner, unless this is a much more sadistic marketing ploy than glens dumpster, he's gotta be dead. Carl and the actors real life dad had a bit of a rant about being fired after the episode aired. (I'll try to post the story link tomorrow, I'm being lazy)


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Yeah, he is more compelling in the comics -- to my memory, the whole "CORAL, GIT BACK IN THE HOOOUSE!" phase never happens there -- but really, I think post-Season 5 at least, Carl's been one of the better characters on the show. The actor's grown into the role well. When last I bothered watching, the new "most annoying younger character" title was resting squarely on Enid's shoulders.

And that's a shame. I wouldn't put Option B off the table just yet because I've seen far more elaborate attempts by shows to convince audiences that an actor was leaving the show only to pull the rug out at the next premiere, but if it's all legit, this is really shitty. Riggs' spent almost half his life on this show, so I can't imagine it's super easy to just get canned all of a sudden. Assuming it's real.
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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby Australia » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:34 am

Personally, only one word came to my mind when it happened and that was 'Finally'. So that probably means I'm with SandTea on this one.

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That scene where Carl crashed a car on an empty street Lori-style happened post-season 5, right? Just goes to show what a low bar this show has if that still qualifies him for one of the better characters in anyone's opinion. I've grown to tolerate him recently, if only because he's been used sparingly but I'm glad I'll never have to see Carl again. Still, it's too little, too late because I just don't care enough to cheer.

The time transitions are really pissing me off this season. They're being done every episode for no reason. It doesn't add anything, it doesn't change context, it's not as artistic as it thinks it is given the flashbacks aren't intriguing, it's just pointless. I'm glad they've upped the action though. I've come too far to stop watching now, but there's been a few episodes these past months where I didn't push the show to background noise so it's doing something right. Let's forget the fact that you can jump from the season 6 finale to the season 8 premier and not know you missed an entire season. The show isn't good but at least it's watchable again.
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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby iMURDAu » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:41 am

Anyone else still with this? We've come a long way.

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Carl's dead. He died. That happened. Saving Saadiq because why the hell not. Saving a person but sacrificing yourself will now be known as "Pulling A Carl".

In the latest episode we got to see Dr. Carson at first be annoyed with Father Gabriel's blind following of God. Then we got to see Dr. Carson blame Father Gabriel's going blind on following God. After Father Gabriel stumbled quite blindly into a stash of antibiotic pills it seemed Dr. Carson was seeing things much more clearly than Father Gabriel but he was also starting to have some faith in God. Finally, Dr. Carson died abruptly. I won't say how but it was swift and he was left behind as Father Gabriel screamed in horror.

Poor Father Gabriel. Things really went to shit for him after he ended up in that trailer with Negan. Well, not like living in a zombie apocalypse after locking your congregation out of the church so you could try to solo this mission was the greatest life you could live but hey.

Oh shit. And Saadiq is a doctor has medical experience whatever the fuck that is. I have medical experience, I give my cat insulin shots.
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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby KleinerKiller » Wed May 30, 2018 6:59 pm

Spoilers if you don't want information on cast departures that will most likely be major deaths:

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According to various sources, both Andrew Lincoln and Lauren Cohan will be leaving the show next season, while Norman Reedus will be moving into the starring role.

If this turns out to be the case, despite my many misgivings with the show for how badly they handled my favorite arc, I'm still pretty sad about it. Rick's departure just in and of itself means the show probably can't go down the Whisperers route (not that it would carry much dramatic heft since Carl is a critical part of that storyline) or have many of the great Negan interactions, and Maggie being gone destroys the point of Hilltop and deprives us of my favorite female lead in the story. A lot of fans may adore Daryl despite him being little more than a static cool guy for the longest time (in spite of Norman Reedus's best efforts), but I can't see the show lasting too much longer after this.
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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby iMURDAu » Wed May 30, 2018 10:04 pm

Damned AMC read my post about Roseanne and they're taking action. Just blow up this dumb planet already and get it all over with.
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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby LunarTeaHouse » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:46 am

To be honest, I'm over it. And I'm over Fear, which I actually thought to be the better show. Do either of you guys watch Fear?

They butchered it. They butchered the fuck out of it.

I've never stopped watching a show before now, but now they're both off of my recordings list. Maybe I'll watch them when they go to Netflix. Reddit Fear is going offfffff about this.

Also, there's apparently some drama going on with Chris Hardwick and AMC has suspended his shows, investigations pending.

What the hell is going on...
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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby iMURDAu » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:43 pm

The wife and I watched the first season of Fear and found it compelling. Then they were in that boat for a couple episodes at the start of season 2 and we stuck through it! We quit watching not long after the hotel episode where everyone got split up and Not-Johnny Galecki went off covered in entrails so he could mosey among the dead. I think they did a time jump so I felt justified in stopping. Then I read they did another time jump at the beginning of the latest season so they could have
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Deus Ex Morgan on the squad doing his Donatello thang.


I'll watch TWD as long as Kirkman is involved. That's his baby and so is the comic. Provided he doesn't go all SJW like he did with Invincible, I'm not going anywhere.

I never liked Chris Hardwick. He's an okay interviewer but ffs people on this site could do his job and nobody would notice a difference. We're that talented.
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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby LunarTeaHouse » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:43 pm

Season 3 of Fear on the ranch was great. Lots of great character development with Madison, plus a few interesting new characters including some BAMF Native Americans.

And yeah, you're right. Now there's time jumps on top of time jumps. The characters are dropping like flies, and the plot is going in circles. The new characters they've brought in are pretty worthless, except for this cowboy guy whom everyone likes. He's the only thing holding the show together like so much glue.

I like Morgan, but only because he's the character I identify with the most. I'm the biggest pacifist ever, so I'd totally be the person going around asking why we can't all just be friends, lol.

These shows have come a long way down. :( I remember when I had a hard time deciding whether Walking Dead or Game of Thrones was the better show. Now there's just no contest in the slightest. I actually like Into the Badlands better than Walking Dead these days, and that show is crap! Haha. I just really like the martial arts sequences and the costumes and set designs are gorgeous
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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby KleinerKiller » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:50 am

Since I'm officially checked out of the show but still eagerly lapping up the comic (and the Telltale games), I figure I'll make some predictions for how the big cast departures are gonna go down since this thread is semi-active. If I get it mostly on the money, please pay me in stale candy. Also some comic spoilers and details on a returning cast member.

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What we know for sure is that Lauren Cohan will be gone around the mid-season, and Lincoln will be leaving at the end. Since TWD is so reliant on its mid-season finale shockers, I'm pretty confident in what's below.

With Maggie ending the last season starting that stupid insurrection against Rick for sparing Negan (an issue the comic has spun out much more slowly and powerfully, at least in my opinion), she's going to spend the first half-season scheming and planting seeds of mutiny before openly trying to act against Rick in the mid-season finale, only to die in the process in either that episode or the following break premiere. This will have a huge impact on both Rick and Daryl, who's also hesitantly on the mutinying side as of last season's finale.

Following that, the show will tease out the reveals of the new antagonists a la what they did with the Saviors in the back half of Season 6. Whether they try their hand at the Whisperers despite that arc being so reliant on Rick, Carl, and Negan being together (I mean, they already transplanted one of the big deaths to Carl, so it'd be kind of weightless altogether) or introduce another series original group, the slowly building conflict will drive Rick to his worst impulses and make everyone distrust him. Daryl will slowly but surely be slotted into the position of Big Good, just in time for the threat to come to a head.

Then it's time for Rick to die in the finale. I've got three theories as to how they'll do this. One, given the timing relative to the comic, is that he'd be the last decapitated head unveiled on the Whisperers' wall of heads (thus sparing Ezekiel), but that seems too undramatic. Then there's the idea of him going out in a grandiose heroic sacrifice to protect the group from the big army / herd approaching, which is just tropey enough that I could see them pulling it off. What makes me skeptical, though, is that Jon Bernthal is reported to be appearing as Shane -- almost certainly, unless we're going full batshit necromancy up in this bitch, as part of a hallucination of everyone Rick has lost over the years. Those kinds of hallucinations can happen any time, but given that Rick will be leaving the show, mid-death would be most appropriate and the death would have to be slow enough to allow it.

So Rick is dealt a mortal blow, be it by the enemies, a walker, or one of his own allies after he goes too far. He'll spend the duration of the episode shambling around or sitting in his own blood, being visited by the ghosts of his past, until finally it comes time to transfer the protagonist position. In comes Daryl, who has a big emotional talk with him that resolves all of their lingering differences and reflects on the show's many seasons, before tearfully putting him out of his misery. Rick is severed cleanly and Daryl moves into the biggest spotlight, ready for an original storyline or an absorption of Rick's future story beats. Roll credits.
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Re: The Walking Dead

Postby iMURDAu » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:38 pm

This show really dropped the ball by not having someone around to facilitate a major face turn by someone else.

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I think they'll have to cancel the show after the next season if we lose Maggie and Rick. You know, the only protagonists left in the comics this show is loosely based on. Without Carl to have his come to Jesus talks with Negan who redeems him and how? I can't think of another character that is close between Rick and Negan that could bridge the gap between them.

Their supposed plan of making TWD into The Walking Daryl has potential to fail hard. The Darylites I know personally weren't happy with this past season featuring him riding the bike and not doing much else. How long can they keep up with the loud ass bike that manages to always have plenty of gas?

I think once the series ends it will be remembered for some poignant episodes, fantastic special effects, those moments that were torn off the page of the comic, introducing us to Danai Gurira, and more. But it will also be remembered for the farm, "They're screwing with the wrong people", and killing Carl prematurely because.
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