FaceTheCitizen wrote:Malfeasinator wrote:I can't keep track of all the whores
But you gotta do it to keep your pimping business alive.
A good pimp uses spreadsheets to spread them sheets.
Marcuse wrote:The Undying refer to Dany as the "child of three" and she doesn't understand what they mean by this. It might easily mean that she's the third child of Rhaegar, and that this is why she's special.
A Combustible Lemon wrote:Death is an archaic concept for simpleminded commonfolk, not Victorian scientist whales.
CarrieVS wrote:Marcuse wrote:The Undying refer to Dany as the "child of three" and she doesn't understand what they mean by this. It might easily mean that she's the third child of Rhaegar, and that this is why she's special.
I think it would be very difficult for Dany to be Rhaegar and Lyanna's daughter. Rhaegar and his mother might have less practical objections, since it's a lot easier for someone to have a different father than is believed than a different mother, but I find it hard to believe even given the Targaryens' lack of objection to incest.
Not that I have any better suggestions, mind.
...the freerider Lothor Brune, who'd cut his way through half a hundred Fossoway men-at-arms to capture Ser Jon of the green and kill ser Bryan and Ser Edwyn of the red, thereby winning himself the name Lothor Apple-Eater
Anglerphobe wrote:Cut through doesn't necessarily mean "killed". He may have killed only a few of them but caused enough disarray to single out and claim his scalps in the confusion. That would be breaking or routing them in the military sense, rather than slaughtering them all. The former seems much more plausible too.
Anguy shuffled his feet. "We were thinking we might eat it Sharna. With lemons. If you have some."
"Lemons. And where would we get lemons? Does this look like Dorne to you, you freckled fool? Why don't you hop out back to the lemon tree and pick us a bushel, and some nice olives and pomegranates too."
Marcuse wrote:As far as we know, Braavos has no lemon trees, and is on a similar latitude to the Vale, which is not remotely the appropriate climate for it.
cmsellers wrote:Marcuse wrote:As far as we know, Braavos has no lemon trees, and is on a similar latitude to the Vale, which is not remotely the appropriate climate for it.
Wales is on the same latitude as Labrador. We saw palm trees in Wales, which apparently can grow there thanks to the Gulf Stream. Of course Martin's world is a fantasy world, but if he hasn't stated there is no equivalent to the Gulf Stream in the Narrow Sea, it's not unreasonable to think there might be one.
A Combustible Lemon wrote:Death is an archaic concept for simpleminded commonfolk, not Victorian scientist whales.
Marcuse wrote:I've been thinking about the whole "pounce that was promised" thing. I'm confused about it.
People normally assume R+L=J and that Jon is the PtwP because he's the hidden son of Rhaegar. But that doesn't match up with Dany's experience in the House of the Undying. Mostly, people dismiss the whole HotU stuff as meaningless prophecy that cannot be verified and therefore can't be considered as remotely serious. They do in fact make several supposed prophecies which do come to pass, most notably the Red Wedding.
However, there's a few things that we know about magic/telepathy in aSoIaF that makes this a dubious reaction. We know from Bran that effective time travel is possible for people who have the ability to cast their consciousness back. The Shade of the Evening is billed as a substance that will promote this ability in people who may otherwise have no ability to do so, maybe it only stimulates people who have a gift already, we don't know. But either way we know it's possible for people to cast their minds back to other times and observe events as they occurred at the time, even if they may not be able to affect things.
This makes Dany's vision of Rhaegar and Elia hold a bit more veracity than it might otherwise do. The thing here is that Rhaegar clearly felt that his son Aegon was the PtwP, and then says that he needs another because the "dragon has three heads". Now this is clearly a reference to Aegon the Conquerer, who invaded Westeros with his two sister/wives. But this then places Jon's status as a targaryen in question, because if he was a child of Rhaegar, this wouldn't fit into the narrative Rhaegar wanted for his children: two females and one male to represent the dragonriders who took Westeros a while back.
On top of this, the Undying refer to Dany as the "child of three" and she doesn't understand what they mean by this. It might easily mean that she's the third child of Rhaegar, and that this is why she's special. As the child of Rhaegar and Lyanna she would have the genetic ability to hatch dragons, and would be the culmination of an effort to breed a new people capable of bringing dragons into the world.
The other interesting thing is that when the Undying assault her near the end of her time, one of them is specifically stated to go after one eye, biting. Who else drinks Shade of the Evening, has a wonky eye and is known to have warlocks in his employ? Yep, Euron Greyjoy. If he's been to the HotU and come away from it changed, that might explain his sudden apostatic delight in killing the religious, and his understanding of the supernatural.
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